Points Alternative

Discussion in 'High Tech for Old Iron' started by BuickRacer69, May 29, 2019.

  1. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    YES, I've been selling & installing them for years. Only two problems. One was bad right out of the box. For awhile they had a problem where the screw that holds down the lead wire wasn't deep enough.. Ends up there was too much sealing material injected under the screw & when you went to tighten it down the screw would break & the wire wasn't tight. Since has been fixed, BUT I ALWAYS check to make sure the screw goes in all the way BEFORE installing.

    Tom T.
     
  2. DauntlessSB92

    DauntlessSB92 Addicted to Buick

    Once these are back in stock I'll put an order in for a kit.
     
  3. B-rock

    B-rock Well-Known Member


    If Im following this right Holley now offers us a hyperspark setup. They have a hyperspark distributor.

    https://www.holley.com/products/ign...per_efi_hyperspark_distributors/parts/565-312
     
  4. ToddsGS

    ToddsGS Founders Club Member

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  5. RoseBud68

    RoseBud68 Well-Known Member

  6. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    Manny,

    YES, you are correct.

    Tom T.
     
  7. ToddsGS

    ToddsGS Founders Club Member


    They're pretty much maintenance free once the timing is set! ( and a great track record)
     
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  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    The electronic ignition controls the Dwell automatically. Some modules actually vary it according to needs. Dwell is the time period the coil is being energized.
     
  9. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    It increases the dwell time to saturate the coil longer for a hotter spark.
     
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  10. RoseBud68

    RoseBud68 Well-Known Member

    Thank you guys for your input.
     
  11. 64 skylark mike

    64 skylark mike Well-Known Member

    Does it control the dwell on old style distributors or just on electronic ignition type? Just trying to make sure I understand correctly. Thanks for your patience!
     
  12. RoseBud68

    RoseBud68 Well-Known Member

    The unit that Todd sale replaces the points style to electronics thus controlling the dwell adjustment as well.
     
  13. sailbrd

    sailbrd Well-Known Member

    I have a Fitech instead of Sniper but use the MSD 6530. I use the timing control on the MSD due to it's proven reliability and the ability to run more sophisticated timing curves.
     
  14. 64 skylark mike

    64 skylark mike Well-Known Member

    Ok, that makes sense the way you worded it. I thought from the beginning that his kit replaced points, done deal. But then the discussion went to the part about dwell being controlled automatically by electronic ignition. I guess I was over thinking it.
    One other question, do you still need to modify the resistor wire with new 12volt supply like Pertronix?
     
  15. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

  16. 64 skylark mike

    64 skylark mike Well-Known Member

    That's what I call direct and to the point! Thanks Tom!
    I've had a new Pertronix kit in my trunk for 3 years, but never installed it because I have been nervous about doing the 12volt supply after burning up the first kit.
     
  17. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    Michael,

    You DON'T have to replace/eliminate the resister wire which requires opening up the harness. Instead use the resistor wire to trigger a relay. No cutting open harnesses & can go back to stock easily with NO MUSS & FUSS since you DIDN'T cut a stock harness.
     
  18. 64 skylark mike

    64 skylark mike Well-Known Member

    I like that idea. Maybe when I get ready to do the conversion, I'll PM you if you wouldn't mind.
    I have read through Larry's thread about it, but it seems pretty involved. So I just left the points. After all, the car has worked for 55 years already with points and starts with a touch of the key unless it has set for a while and has to crank enough to get the carb primed back up.
     
  19. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    It really isn't. All you need to do is unwrap the harness and trace the wires. If you don't want to separate the firewall connector to replace the resistance wire, you can clip it off close to the firewall and crimp/solder on replacement wire. Or, you can run a relay like Tommy suggested.

    Relay wiring,

    RelayResWireBypass.jpg
     
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2019
  20. 64 skylark mike

    64 skylark mike Well-Known Member

    Hello Mr. Larry, I respect you a lot even though I have never met you. I enjoy reading your posts, they are always very informative. I know that you really know your way around these cars, and my post definitely wasn't meant in a negative way.
    But I haven't been able to wrap my head around what you recommend for the Pertronix conversion to work properly. I already burned up one Pertronix, so a little gun shy.
    Also not familiar with this relay you guys are talking about either. My brother in law has suggested swapping a newer style electronic ignition distributor, but I don't want that look on my '64.
    I'll read your thread on the subject again. Thanks again for your input on this board!
     

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