Was watching a car leave in MOD (no-box) class and saw the guy use a transbrake off a microswitch on the steering wheel. Well apparently no box means just that and NOT no electronics. So it can't even be called footbrake any longer. Make it pretty tough for the occasional true footbrake racer to win a round or two.....I though I was just geezing and losing it......probably true but still.......
Wait! Hold your horses. No Box or aka Pro ET means no delay box or electronic throttle stops. has absolutely nothing to do with trans brake / 2 Step. I've been racing for 5 years and ran the Summit series in both IHRA and NHRA. have used a 2 step and trans brake all along. Now I have a air shifter triggered by the tach through a shift controller, also legal. If your in a street car run Sportsman.
My point is that it isn't footbrake any more if using transbrake to leave the line. You are reacting with your finger with a microswitch. I'm using my foot which is a lot further from my brain (slower reacting than finger) and a throttle cable.
Whatever happened to driving skills? Next we'll be sending drones down the track. Are racers that afraid to make a mistake? I didn't know so much was on the line to win. Doesn't sound like much fun.
There are true footbrake only races that don't even allow tbrakes or 2steps. But you really have watch even in sportsman, seen several guys running brakes there just flat up against the conetter no 2step. They use a horn button or something and don't have the big arm swing. The day they put a rule up in drag racing was they day someone cheated a way around it. I always like at an event where 1 guy runs both box and nobox class. But you watch the car go 5 rounds of double 0 lights in both class. One class leaving top bulb one class leaving bottom bulb. I know there are some really skilled drivers out there but you eat the same r/t an et run in both class and one starts to wonder what's really going on
I run the Riv on occasion and its foot brake. Many times I'll do a better RT than in the Regal with all the gadgets. The thing in bracket racing is being consistent. Having the gadgets can make the difference of 1/1000 sec. win or lose. Im out there to compete. not needlessly flogging the car lap after lap burning a gal of 110 a pass. Of course I want to win some rounds and if having the same gear as everyone else makes a difference Im going to do it too.
Yeah, trying to get my son into racing more but he's seen me win some big money races and even though he is pretty good he doesn't race often and when he does he might win a round every now and then in MOD class but it's tough to do more than that. He can run street but it only pays $100 to win so not too much motivation. We used to go to a bar with a full tree and reaction times. Everyone put up 20 bucks and we had eliminations. NO ELECTRONICS!!! It was almost as fun as going to the track. It was a topless bar as well....often there were distractions.
[QUOTE="BQUICK, post: 2798408, member: 444" We used to go to a bar with a full tree and reaction times. Everyone put up 20 bucks and we had eliminations. NO ELECTRONICS!!! It was almost as fun as going to the track. It was a topless bar as well....often there were distractions.[/QUOTE] So you could possibly have the quickest erection time?
last time I checked a trans-brake is "electronic"....yes the tracks have screwed it up, "no electronic's" should be no trans-brake or electric shifter. imo
But if you want to get that techincal this an msd box is electronics, so is you hei ignition. And if you run fuel injection you shouldn't be allowed to MOD cause that too is electronics. I didn't install my tbrakes till a few years after being in the MOD class. My car is too fast to run the slower class........whatever it's now call. So even though I would had prefer to stay in a footbrake class because my car was faster than 12.0 got pushed. By the time u got my car worked out and was running 10.90s my car was reacting fast enough that to cut a green light I was ting to leave galfway between last yellow and green......but for years I was leaving on bottom yellow. I installed my tbrakes and an adjustable button to slow the leave down.......but I can only adjust it before in the pits....it's done with springs and spacers, no electronics. My tbrakes is justhe a solenoid, no different than a line lock. So I feel it falls into the no electronic's class just fine. The 2 step is no different than any other Rev limiter on top end. Funny thing us my car is quicker on the foot brake than the tbrake.
I can't speak for others but as i mentioned I run them for 2 reasons, being consistent, and for me my car as ithe got quicker fell into the odd spot where I was launching after seeing yellow not with the bottom yellow. When our schedule allows we still like to hit the football only races but seems that chance is fewer and farther apart. One of the things I really like a out the adjustable button is when traveling to different tracks I can adjust for roll out differences between then and home track. Just change a spacer, or spring, or spring tension, or add weight and I speed up or slow down the release anywhere from .015 to almost .100 slower compaired to micro swithch. The more time in the switch the less consistence it seems to be. I have mine being slowed down about .038
My Buick and Futura are both foot brake cars. I don't do the 'points' thing at the track as I do not want to be committed to being there every weekend chasing them. I go to test-n-tunes to race the clock and/or my friends.
Adjustable switches are also necessary when racing .5 tenths protree, I'll bulb with micro switch on a .5 protree, so I need to lengthen the throw on the switch. On a .4tenths protree it isn't necessary.
I guess I keep on trying without all that stuff. Years ago I signed up for electronics class (called Super Pro at the time) to run against them with nothing but my foot. I qualified for the bracket finals and a couple box people accused me of cheating along the way...I thought that was kinda funny and ironic....
I get it but don't really care for it, I like to drive my car! Some people release a button and turn into steering wheel holders as the car shifts itself. Just can't find the fun in that! You're allowed brakes in our no box class but we have some badass footbrakers too that regularly put the TB cars on the trailer.
