Need Some Help with Brgs

Discussion in 'Race 400/430/455' started by capsgs, Mar 8, 2016.

  1. capsgs

    capsgs Well-Known Member

    I am in the process of gathering parts for my next build. I know this isn't in the right place but I feel more eyes will see this here. I am looking for a set of "H" series main bearings that are .020 over. Clevite, Vandervell or King would be great, but at this point I'm open to any. I really don't want to spend the money to weld the crank back to standard, but if I have to, that's what I'll do. So if anybody's got any laying around I'd sure appreciate it.
     
  2. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    Caps

    No such product exists in the three names you mentioned. Closest thing your going to get for a hard surface Buick main bearing in .020 is the 4664M series Speed Pro.

    I should mention I have made over 1000 HP with the standard P series Clevite 77 bearings.

    I am not a fan of hard main/rod bearings, and I have yet to see a Buick main or rod bearing "melted out" from load.

    JW
     
  3. capsgs

    capsgs Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the reply Jim. I kind of expected that would be the answer I would get. The only thing that troubles me with the "P" bearing is it's propensity to redistribute the soft material under extreme load. I got an 88 lb. arm in this thing. Even though I keep telling myself its just a bracket car, I know what I will end up doing!!!:Dou:
     
  4. TA Perf

    TA Perf Member

    Chris,
    The MS908P is a tri-metal bearing like the H bearing. It does how ever have a coating to make it look nicer which the H bearing does not. The make up of these two bearings are very very close as I discovered years ago dealing with Clevite trying to get them to make us a H bearing for the 455. The eccentricity on a P bearing is considered to be high which the H bearing is considered medium. H bearing have additional clearance for oversize fillets which your fillets should be fine with the P bearing. The P bearing is not a soft bearing like your explaining it to be. If you were installing an aluminum bearing that would be different but the P bearing is a not that. You say your crankshaft is 88 lbs. When I was running the iron block in the wagon, the crankshaft in it was 92 lbs and that engine still has P bearings in it today. You will be fine.
     
  5. capsgs

    capsgs Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the reply Mike. I'm probably overthinking the whole thing. This will be my most expensive bullet so far and I just want to make sure things are done correctly. I understand that most race bearings are hard backed, except for blown alky and nitro, but the soft layers is what I have been reading will redistribute under pressure. Again I'm probably overthinking it. I've never had a bearing fail in 20 years that wasn't the result of an oiling problem.
     
  6. Michael Evans

    Michael Evans a new project

    BTW It is .020 UNDER bearings you want.
     

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