Need Help Degreeing My Cam

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by patwhac, Apr 25, 2020.

  1. patwhac

    patwhac Well-Known Member

    Hello all! I'm attempting to degree a camshaft (Scott Brown turbo grind) into my used engine and I'm running into some confusing numbers. Please note that I've never degreed a cam before so forgive my ignorance!

    Here is the cam card:

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    I know that Jim Weise's thread over in the 455 section encourages the use of the duration method, however I am trying to use the centerline method for simplicity.

    I figured out that with the cam installed +2 degrees advanced, the open and close measurements match those on the cam card: #1 intake lobe opens to .050" at -2 BTDC (2 ATDC) and closes to .050" at 46 ABDC. However, I read 71 ATDC and 162 ATDC when I zero the indicator at max lift and then go down .050" on each side of the lobe. My math looks like this:

    71 + 162 = 233/2 =116.5

    According to the card this cam should be degreed at 114. So am I really 2.5 degrees off or should I believe the lift events? Am I doing something wrong?

    Any help is appreciated!
     
  2. patwhac

    patwhac Well-Known Member

    Bump

    Anyone out there who can help? I'm inclined to call it good but I just want to be sure before I start buttoning this engine up!
     
  3. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I'm not big on cam degreeing but I'll take a stab at it. Adding the opening and closing events at .050, you get 2+46+ 180 =228. The cam card calls for 224* duration. That's 4* off. Then subtracting the intake opening from 228/2 =114-2 =112*. That's 2 advanced. Something isn't right. Your centerline method says it is 2.5* retarded. Maybe shoot Jim Weise a PM and ask him to look.
     
  4. patwhac

    patwhac Well-Known Member

    Thanks Larry, will do! I'm wondering if I'm not measuring something correctly.
     
  5. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member


    OK, I missed that negative sign on the intake opening.

    -2 + 46 + 180 = 224. That agrees with the card

    224/2 - (-2) = 114

    That's dead on.

    So the discrepancy is with the intake center line method. Maybe run those numbers again?
     
    Last edited: Apr 29, 2020
  6. patwhac

    patwhac Well-Known Member

    Oh sweet! Ok I'm sure I'm making a mistake somewhere then. Maybe I'm not getting the cam to full lift before I zero my dial indicator . . . Thanks for your help! I will report back.
     
  7. patwhac

    patwhac Well-Known Member

    Ok so I took centerline methods measurements again after resetting my dial indicator on max lift (it was off by .001" or so) and got:

    71 (open) + 158 (close) = 229

    229/2 = 114.5

    So I'm going to call that good. Again this is with the cam advanced 2 degrees. I also took readings for the #1 exhaust lobe valve events and they were about 1 to 2 degrees off but I think close enough. I'm pretty sure there's still some measurement error going on, might be excess lube on the lobes that I tried to wipe off or some other discrepancy!
     
  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Sounds good.
     

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