National Anthem

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  1. Eric

    Eric Founders Club Member

    People just don't get it... that they need to go way more vertical and far less horizontal.
     
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  2. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    So now we will kneel with our hats off and our hands on our hearts. Are they going to had out pads for my knees while we are doing this? .

    Hell My dad fought for freedom on a Destroyer in WW2 and did get hit by a kamakazie and some did not make it. I almost could not be here today.

    I guess if we have to take a knee now along with taking your hat off and putting your hand on your heart we might as well at least get a cushion for our knees don't you think? They can make it in our favorite country hina.

    IF we all do it the whole thing will get old real quick and then everyone will just sit in their seats like they used to during the anthem in the old days (80's)
     
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  3. Storm1

    Storm1 Silver Level contributor

    For your viewing and listening enjoyment, a black man... playing The Star Spangled Banner...at a concert!




    And somehow...it was not an issue. At a time when racial relations were infinitely worse than today, a black man honors his country without saying a single word.
     
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  4. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    Jimi Hendrix who was he ? Lol I'll tell you who he was he was one of the greatest guitar players that ever lived and he love this country.........
     
  5. Kennybill

    Kennybill Well-Known Member

    I swore off the nfl around 1995 when the browns fired Bernie Kosar (local guy). The next weekend, my first nfl free weekend, was a gorgeous weekend. On Sunday I was outside building a new shed. I started at 8 am and worked to 6pm. I could see into my family room and I thought, if I hadn't swore off I'd be in there watching football all day. I had a great day outside and accomplished a lot. I've never regreted it. I also put a curse on the "Cleveland browns". People/relatives have tried to get me to take it off, no way and not no way elway as i use to say. It really freed up a lot of time to work on my cars, yada yada. I also boycott nba, I don't consider whatever their playing basketball but whatever it is, i don't watch it. Now Im boycotting mlb also. Those millionaires don't care about me and I don't care about them. I am planning on going to a local semi pro hockey game to see if enjoy that. If they don't stand respectfully for "Our Flag" I'll be out of there and back in my garage. Jmo.
     
  6. 2manybuicks

    2manybuicks Founders Club Member

    A little info about Jimi's version of the star spangled banner:

    Critics Claimed It Was A Controversial Attack On America
    Even though "The Star-Spangled Banner" has a rich history of being reworked by performers dating back to the 19th century, from lyrics to instrumentation, the song's status as a fixed symbol of America after WWI erased this history. Renditions that seemed to diverge from the original were seen as obscene and disrespectful by the mainstream media. Not a year before Hendrix's Woodstock set, musician Jose Feliciano received extensive backlash after opening Game 5 of the 1968 World Series in Detroit with a soulful, folksy rendition of the anthem. Since the event was aired live on TV,Inside Jimi Hendrix’s Legendary And Controversial National Anthem Performance At Woodstock '69 image
    Photo: Jimi Hendrix: The Dick Cavett Show/Sony Legacy
    negative feedback flooded in from all over the country. Feliciano's career was eventually salvaged, but his reputation was forever blemished.

    This was the same world Hendrix was performing in, and while Woodstock was not aired live, journalists still found ways to confront him and question his intentions. At a press conference a few weeks after the festival, Hendrix had to defend himself by saying, “We’re all Americans... it was like ‘Go, America!’... We play it the way the air is in America today. The air is slightly static, see.”

    TV talk show host Dick Cavett challenged Hendrix when he appeared on his show in September 1969. “What was the controversy about the national anthem and the way you played it?” Cavett asked.

    “I don’t know, man,” Hendrix replied. “All I did was play it. I’m American, so I played it. I used to have to sing it in school, they made me sing it in school, so... it was a flashback.”

    “Well, when you mention the national anthem and talk about playing it in any unorthodox way, you immediately get a guaranteed percentage of hate mail," Cavett said.

    Also:
    Jimi faced some severe consequences for this performance. He and his band were greeted with death threats if they were to perform the anthem at certain venues.

    During his heyday Jimi Hendrix was among the most polarizing of figures in pop-culture... A prominent example of Jimi Hendrix being a polarizing figure was his notorious live performance of “The Star-Spangled Banner” hosted at the Woodstock Music and Art Fair in all places but Texas. The Texan locals did not appreciate this spiced up version of an American classic and in effect spurred sociopolitical controversy to the extent that Hendrix even received multiply death threats.

    So yeah, it was not all hugs and kisses and unicorns and rainbows.
     
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  7. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    They used to criticize Elvis in the 50s Jimi Hendrix in the 60s an another's but he still played the Star-Spangled Banner and I don't believe he ever burned the flag.
     
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  8. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    Are you trying to make a comparison of Hendrix with Kapernot?
    How old were you in 69? 7 years old?
     
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  9. 2manybuicks

    2manybuicks Founders Club Member

    I was replying to this post, which made it seem like everyone was just hunky-dory with Jimi's version back in the day. Facts say plenty of people were not.

    Not sure what age has to do with it. If we were all required to have been of legal voting age when something happened to have an opinion on it, all history and most religion would be rendered meaningless.
     
  10. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    I had heard this Hendrix version way back in the 70's and thought it was cool at the time maybe they should use that version today and see how everyone reacts. Maybe everyone would stand up for that rendition, it sounds so good you would almost have to.

    I remember when you could not wear the American flag on the back of your jean jacket either. Now you can wear the flag everywhere.
     
  11. Storm1

    Storm1 Silver Level contributor

    So what? He wanted to play it, he had the balls to play it, he played it.

    You want all hugs and kisses and unicorns and rainbows? Where was the outrage and death threats when...

    Whitney Houston



    Jennifer Hudson


    Beyoncé


    Glee


    And the best of all....LeBron James deciding not to kneel during the National Anthem. Why didn't he kneel to show "respect" for his friend?


    All hugs and kisses and unicorns and rainbows...with no outrage, no death threats, no cancel culture...
     
  12. 2manybuicks

    2manybuicks Founders Club Member

    Yes, because we grew as a country. I was merely stating that to say there was no blowback when Jimi played the Star Spangled Banner in the Sixties was wholly inaccurate.

    Plus, he didn't do it with a live video feed or during the age of the interwebs. The outrage about his musical desecration would have been far higher if such technology had existed back then -- his version evidently did not become famous / infamous until the film about Woodstock came out much later.
     
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  13. 442w30

    442w30 Well-Known Member

  14. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    " Not sure what age has to do with it. "
    You were seven years old at the time! mommy was still making your bologna sandwiches for you? let alone you knew anything about the national anthems meaning to people back then?
    I was in the service when he did it his way! We all thought it was great!
    Kneeling in selfish response to "your" feelings is NOT the same thing as Hendrix playing it on his guitar IMO
    The leaders of certain orgs. are known M- -x- -ts and we know if we have done ANY research the meaning behind these kneeling antics?
    It is done to "PROVOKE" simple as that IMO
     
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  15. Eric

    Eric Founders Club Member

    Render unto Ceasar/Jimmy, the things that are Ceasar's/Jimmy's...
    And... get ready...there will come a time when every one of us will kneel.
    Just a little future history to chew on!
     
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  16. Storm1

    Storm1 Silver Level contributor

    Apparently respect has more to do with how you were raised, than how old you are. I was only 2 months old when Jimi played that.

    Some people like spitting on vets, and burning the flag... I say thank you for your service.
     
  17. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    Yep! the people who cursed us and called us baby killers are today's baby killers for real!
    I wore my uniform maybe three times through LAX? Yeah? I wasn't allowed to retaliate on those pukes1 So to avoid the conflict I wore civies on the way home for leave.
    It was a crazy time for sure! Those who ran to Canada were called patriots by the ones calling us baby killers!!
    Thanx Kevin :)
     
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  18. 71rivera

    71rivera Platinum Level Contributor

    personal opinion... people fought and died for our country and our freedom, including the right to kneel I suppose.
    To me, I will not support what I perceive as disrespect to those who made that sacrifice.
    There are so many other ways to make a point... wear different color shoes, have a ribbon on your jersey or helmet...
    All this controversy and still we can have a public debate about it. The greatest country on Earth!
     
  19. gsfred

    gsfred Founders Club Member

    I too also dealt with that particularly when I came back from Nam.
     
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  20. 70 GMuscle

    70 GMuscle Plan B

    Thank you for your service gentlemen.
    As the son of a Korean War Vet 1950-1951.
    I was taught to show respect. And I will always show respect to our Veterans and our Flag.
    God Bless America!! My Home Sweet Home !!
     
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