nailhead making some noise(cracked flywheel)

Discussion in ''Da Nailhead' started by 66larkgs, May 2, 2011.

  1. 66larkgs

    66larkgs paul 66gs turbo nailhead

    was running the car the other day and after a hard run i brought it back in tha garage and it sounded like it was making a unconsistant rattling noise from inside the bell housing of the trans. i used a stethascope, Think i might have a cracked flywheel. Hoping to get the car in the air but havent had the time latley. started it today and moved it out to take the tractor out. When i shut her down she even made a crunk or a click when the motor stopped. need to get underneith and take a look but wondering if anyone else has every cracked a nailhead flywheel. i was only under 7psi boost but she was building alot of torque!!!

    paul
    66larkgs
    skylark 401 turbo nailhead
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  2. gsgtx

    gsgtx Silver Level contributor

    do you mean flex plate or do u have a 4 speed.your bolts might be loose to the torque converter.
     
  3. 66larkgs

    66larkgs paul 66gs turbo nailhead

    no i meant flexplate..
     
  4. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    I have run into cracked flexplates on GM cars. It can sound like a rod knock.
     
  5. gsgtx

    gsgtx Silver Level contributor

    look at your starter too mine was to close or if they dont pull back all the way, it too sounds like a kind of a knock
     
  6. ahhh65riv

    ahhh65riv Well-Known Member

    I think the weakest point in your whole combination is the torque converter. I remember Mark (?) that has the blown Riviera had issues with the same thing. You might have a bearing or something going out. With that boost, you are probably in line for an upgrade there. Sumthin' to check into anyway.

    Erik
     
  7. riv1964

    riv1964 Well-Known Member

    Had the same issue, loose bolts on the flexplate
    Tightened, solved the problem, lucky..
    Roger
     
  8. 66larkgs

    66larkgs paul 66gs turbo nailhead

    well BAD NEWS!!! not the flex plate, loose bolts or a torque convertor,
    I split the bell housing on the th400 in half!!! must be building some power... now i am considering getting another th400 or switching to stick and building a six speed and finding someone who make the adapter so i can bolt a chevy bellhousing.
    Love to hear some opinions.. i am already set up for a automatic so it would be easier but is thier one that can handle 700ft lbs torque?? where is tommy ivo when you need him!!!

    Paul
    66larkgs turbo 401 nailhead
     
  9. 66gsconv

    66gsconv nailhead apprentice

    Call Lonnie at extreme automatics.
     
  10. gsgtx

    gsgtx Silver Level contributor

    the good news your making mega power. when you pull it apart check the tranny mount and the drive shaft could be to long, also the dowell pins and tranny bolts. motor mounts ?. just throwing some ideals out there, seems like some thing might be a little off. hope you get it going soon thats one hell of a car, good luck. would a aluminum one be stronger??
     
  11. doc

    doc Well-Known Member

    Awwwww, every body knows that you cant make a nailhead make any power,,,:Brow: :Brow: :Brow: Sorry that you busted a trans,,, but it is amusing that you took one of those weak, underpowered, nailheads and got that much power out of it.... it is hard to tear out a automatic trans.... they are tough....

    Keep on, brother, you doing good.....:laugh:
     
  12. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
     
  13. THEGSX

    THEGSX Professional 66 GS Nut !!

    Man...I was hoping for a ride in that thing for thursday night cruise at Bass Pro...!!
     
  14. 66larkgs

    66larkgs paul 66gs turbo nailhead

    well priced out parts and it will be about $1000.00 when said and done. i was wondering how those adapters work. besides the adapter on the bellhousing do they bump out the flexplate with a spacer so the torque convertor doesnt come out to far when bolted in. i can say the buick will be out of commission for a few weeks until i get the 53 pickup painted and done for may 19. after that i will be able to start putting money toward the lark again and get it in some paint. i hopefully will i have time to pull the trans out on sat.
    Paul
    66lark turbo 401 nailhead
     
  15. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    I have a 700R4 in my nailhead-powered Chevy pickup. The flexplate remains where it is. There is a crankshaft extension that allows for the thickness of the adapter. A triangular plate attaches to the extension to connect to the converter. My adapter came from Brendtsens'. I could not stand the 10 lb steel crank extension and had Rob Gerioux of Precision Billet Designs make me a 3 lb extension out of high-strength Aluminum. The adapter will space the engine forward or the tranny rearward. Take your choice.
     
  16. 66larkgs

    66larkgs paul 66gs turbo nailhead

    I have been looking and Brendtsens seems like the best on the market. i am hoping that the setup can handle the extra power.. worst comes to worst if they are still running the big heavy extension i will see about the machine shop making me one. i was looking into running a different trans but i am going to stay with the th400 and bolt up the ultra bell. Atleast this way if i choose to go to a different trans in the buick i can alway bolt the th400 in my 53 pickup.

    Paul
    66lark turbo 401 nailhead
     
  17. JESUPERCAT

    JESUPERCAT No Slow Boat

    Paul I am running the Brendtsen adapter on the dragster. We have yet to have any issues. I would think we have put it through quite the test with several 1.06+ -60' times.
    show us some pictures of the damage.
     
  18. 66larkgs

    66larkgs paul 66gs turbo nailhead

    i will getting some pictures online in a day or two..battery is charging for the camera and going to the redsox tomorrow after work so sat morning before i take the trans out i will take pictures of the cracked trans and some updated pictures of my dash, center console that i just restored. do you run the steel adapter that john was talking about in the dragster? the trans broke from the pass side to the drivers side. after looking at it i thought that was weird, could a bellhousing brake if the trans crossmember was a 1/2 higher. my engine is at 3degrees angle with the angle gauge on the intake flange. i ussally set up my engines between 3-4 degrees and never had a issue. After everything i have looked at i think it was just crap luck that it broke and maybe the amount of torque i am putting down had something to do with it.

    Paul
    66larkgs
    turbo 401 nailhead
     
  19. Babeola

    Babeola Well-Known Member

    Paul,

    What kind of mounts did you use? A solid transmission mount subjects the trans to the forces acting on the chassis. I know the TH/ST 400s are used regularly in heavy cars with over 1000 HP/TQ.

    Cheryl :)
     
  20. JESUPERCAT

    JESUPERCAT No Slow Boat

    Paul we have been using the heavier steel hub in the dragster. All bolts were tight when we took it apart. Everything still looked like new:TU: .
    We will be transferring the adapter assembly over to the twin engine 34 Ford pick-up at some point this summer:Brow: .
    Will be waiting to see those pictures.
    Have fun at the game:grin:
     

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