My AM&P 464 is finally here ....

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Scot69GS400conv, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. Scot69GS400conv

    Scot69GS400conv Stepchild

    Only a few things left to do. My wife was sick for the past few days so I was watching junior instead of working on the Buick. All I need is a carb spring, ball stud to connect to the linkage, install the radiator and hoses, and a battery.

    A couple questions:

    1. Do you guys use an external transmission cooler?

    2. I have the SP1 manifold. It has 2 vacuum ports but I need a third for the vacuum to the little canister on the firewall. I believe that is to work the gates for the A/C vents. Any suggestions?

    Thanks guys. :TU:

    Rob, you off tomorrow?
     
  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member


    I use an external trans cooler plumbed inline with the radiator cooler.


    Just use a vacuum tee.
     
  3. Scot69GS400conv

    Scot69GS400conv Stepchild

    Alan, Mike, Larry, and Rob: Thanks for the help.

    Do the external coolers come with a plumbing kit of some sort? Can you recommend a brand and where did you mount yours?
     
  4. TuBBeD

    TuBBeD Well-Known Member

    Hi Scotty,

    There's a good possibility I'll have off into the afternoon. Let me know when you need help and I'll do my best to be there. Sorry for taking so long to get back. I just had a two day nightmare with moving and I think the worst is over.
     
  5. Scot69GS400conv

    Scot69GS400conv Stepchild

    Moving is always better when it is your friends helping you and you buy the pizza and the beers.

    I have moved many times though not in 11 years. The same guys always help and some are my motor help guys.

    I'll call you tomorrow Rob.

    :TU:
     
  6. Hector

    Hector '79 Buick Limited

    If you don't use hard plumbing for the cooler,make sure to use hose with a higher psi rating.I have use 3/8" fuel injection spec'ed hose before with good results.
     
  7. Johnny Angel

    Johnny Angel Well-Known Member

    I run an external cooler as well. I did however bypass the cooler in my radiator, to minimize possible restriction. (A whole other story.) I mounted it to the rad, with a kit that has foam pads and some sort of ridged, straight, zip tie set up. Works fine.

    I also rerouted my trans lines. I used steel braded line, thru the frame. No issues so far. Just be careful of clearance in the suspention stuff. You would not want one of the lines to get pinched. If you want some pics, I could post. Good luck.

    Regards, John.
     
  8. TuBBeD

    TuBBeD Well-Known Member

    Scotty, give me a call anytime.

    With the external oil cooler, you can run a sandwich plate between the oil filter and the housing. I would get stainless steel braided lines with the fittings to make sure there's no chance of the lines bursting. We can cut some up. If you have a dremel tool with a cutting wheel and some electrical tape, it should go quick.
     
  9. carcrazy455

    carcrazy455 Well-Known Member

    Rob, I think they are talking trans coolers. With a trans cooler you would just cut one of the hard lines (use a tubing cutter) and use rubber hose to and from the cooler. Keep the piece you cut off the hard line and use that for the radiator. I like to use 2 hose clamps on each end. The cooler can be mounted to the radiator with a TCI quick mount kit (may be included with cooler)

    With a stainless steel hose line just tape the hose where you want to cut it and use a cable cutter (just one snip and you are done). If you use #10 or larger you will need a larger cable cutter. Always blow\clean out the hose once cut.

    Mike
     

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  10. Johnny Angel

    Johnny Angel Well-Known Member

    Yes Mike,

    That is the type of kit I used. I used #6 lines. Don't know if #8, or #10 is preffered or not. I bypassed the rad, the second time around, just to be safe. Happy New Year!

    Regards, John.
     
  11. Scot69GS400conv

    Scot69GS400conv Stepchild

    Ahh the blessed moment has ocurred!

    She's purring like a kitten (with open headers).

    I drove it around the block and all the neighbors were similing and waving. They were probably thinking is it always going to be that loud.

    I barely gave it any gas and it is extremely responsive.

    These are the salad days!!! (to quote 'Raising Arizona').

    :TU:
     
  12. Turbo455

    Turbo455 James

    cool, congrats and keep us updated. I would like to know what it runs if you take it to the track
     
  13. 69GS400s

    69GS400s ...my own amusement ride!

    Congratulations Scott - enjoy all your hard work repeatedly :3gears: :3gears: :3gears:
     
  14. Scot69GS400conv

    Scot69GS400conv Stepchild

    I catch myself smiling repeatedly.

    I went out to garage and started it up just for the heck of it.

    It fires right up. I just let it idle and then give it a tidge of throttle.

    I have jury duty tomorrow ... oh joy
     
  15. Scot69GS400conv

    Scot69GS400conv Stepchild

    OK, we had a cold snap here in South Florida. It got down to 37 last night here in Pembroke Pines (set a record).

    My QF 850 doesn't have a choke. What's the trick to a quick start up in the cold with no choke .. or is there a trick??

    Hopefully I'll make it to the muffler shop on Saturday. I'm trying to find a trailer I can borrow. That's a long ride with open headers (TA Super Comps). I'm dying to floor this thing!!
     
  16. 69GS400s

    69GS400s ...my own amusement ride!

    I haven't had a choke on my car since '99 ... Couple of pumps and fire it up. It may stumble so feather the throttle and try to keep it below 1500. After a minute or so it will require less feathering but will still prolly stall if you take your foot totally off. After 3 min or so you should be able to let it idle on its own.

    Watch the temp guage as it climbs to thermostat opening temp - you should see it bounce back down as fluid in the rad is now being circulated ... It'll prolly bounce a few times until the t-stat stabilizes in the open position - then you're good to go but go easy for the first few miles as the trans fluid / rear end fluid etc is still pretty cold
     
  17. low buck Jim

    low buck Jim Well-Known Member

    Hi Scott, Your engine picture in this thread is my new backround on my P.C., I have a similar setup for my 70 GS, up here in New Jersey. I also am eager to have my 3" club exaust installed and get her on the road.
     
  18. Tom Rix

    Tom Rix Well-Known Member

    Scotty,

    Congrats on your new motor, AMP does top notch work!

    A trick we used to do many years ago was to stuff some steel wool pads into the collector and then hose clamp a piece of stainless steel mesh over the end of the collector so it doesn't come out. Deadens the sound and if you take it easy you can drive to the muffler shop. Just DON"T get on it! Did that with my '70 TA and it blew a hole in mesh and the wool pads looked like they were on fire as they flew out the back! Scared the crap out of me but I think the older couple following me both had heart attacks!!

    Good luck!

    Tom
     
  19. Landshark1969

    Landshark1969 1969 GS convertible

    Ok here's a picture of my intake after two seasons nothing except "Gibbs" and a picture of my shark on the dash!!:beers2:
     

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  20. Scot69GS400conv

    Scot69GS400conv Stepchild

    Alan, well the cold snap lasted 2 days and now it's back to normal S. Florida hotness. She fires up after 2 seconds of cranking. It takes a few minutes before it warms up ... LOL, maybe we'll have another 2 day cold snap before the winter ends!!

    Jim, I am flattered to have my engine as your background. I like the black and aluminum look.

    Tom, that is too funny about blowing out the steel wool on fire. Actually, I found a much closer place that is only a few miles away. I'm going to chance a open header ride. It is in my city and I have a few friends on the force ... always helps!!

    Mr. Landshark ... I am going to order and try "Gibbs". There is nothing better than a recommendation that has pictures included. You know, it is always those seldom heard of things that really work. A few years ago someone turned me on to PB Blaster and I have had great results!!

    Thanks everybody :TU:
     

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