Modifying stock iron intake manifold

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by matt68gs400, Aug 15, 2017.

  1. matt68gs400

    matt68gs400 Well-Known Member

    I imagine the air can turn more effieciently, therefore creating a higher flow rate under a given vacuum. With a mild motor, I don't want to kill low end torque by dropping the center too much. I was thinking the notch would allow one side to pull from the other if needed.
     
  2. Jim Rodgers

    Jim Rodgers Well-Known Member

  3. Jim Rodgers

    Jim Rodgers Well-Known Member

    All u need to know is in the above picture. Dont ask me any questions and I wont tell you any lies. Lol
     
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  4. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    You won't affect TQ, remember we have BigBlocks even if we did give up 10ftlbs you would gain more up top where it needs it more, the 350 guys have to be careful with plenum volume on the more mild builds. We need volume to add midrange and topend power.

    The more volume you have the more time the mix has to atomize,straighten and get pulled in vs running into the intake floor then having to find its way to the valve, you want as much of a column of air/fuel as possible before it has to make its turn.
     
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  5. TA Perf

    TA Perf Member

    40 years ago, (man does that sound horrible). I removed the center divider on a cast iron 350 intake that had been match ported. This was way before TA Performance was even a thought. It was in the wagon, 4 speed car back then. Car was a 3 speed on the column originally. Anyway the car lost et. Came back home, welded in a divider, went back out and the car picked back up. The dual plane divider did not like being cut down to the first plenum floor. Still have that intake to remind me what not to do. Also I found that it like spacers under the carb. Tried a 2.0" open with a 1.0" adapter. Picked up up. Tried a 4 hole 2.0" on top of the open adapter picked up more. Went back to the open 2.0" lost. The 4 hole under the carb was the winner. I felt it gave the air passing through the carb more direction and reduced turbulence.
    Engine is still here next door set up that way it was, only difference is it has a TA intake on it. Hasn't run since 1988
     
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  6. matt68gs400

    matt68gs400 Well-Known Member

    Got it roughed in with Angle grinder and sawz all. Now to finish with the carbide burrs and to take down the center a little. I didn't follow the curve by the divider on the secondaries.

    This is kind of a hybrid between Jim and Ethan's intake. Close enough?

    I'm a bit nervous about taking the center down too far. Would there be any advantage tontaking the middle divider down only in the back half adjacent to the secondaries?

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    Last edited: Sep 6, 2017
  7. matt68gs400

    matt68gs400 Well-Known Member

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    Thoughts on something like this?

     
  8. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Tapered spacers generally always pick up power and TQ, I would at the very least knife edge or better yet bull nose the divider coupled with a spacer be it tapered,open or 4hole. I'm not aware of a Qjet tapered spacer tho
     
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  9. matt68gs400

    matt68gs400 Well-Known Member

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    Round off this bottom edge of the roof of the intake where it turns out of the carb and into the runner?
     
  10. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    For sure
     
  11. Jim Rodgers

    Jim Rodgers Well-Known Member

    FYI that spacer is upside down. And yes round off those edges.
     
  12. matt68gs400

    matt68gs400 Well-Known Member

    Lol, good catch! I grabbed this picture off eBay.
     
  13. matt68gs400

    matt68gs400 Well-Known Member

    Single vs. double carbide burrs?

    Dang, every time I write burr, my autocorrect changes it to butt.
     
  14. Guy Parquette

    Guy Parquette Platinum Level Contributor

    Double carbide butt for iron, single butt for aluminum:)
     
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  15. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Two butts are better,...so I hear anyway
     
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  16. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    Or just call it a rotary file. More letters, less spell-check insanity.
     
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  17. 87GN_70GS

    87GN_70GS Well-Known Member

    Found 2 tapered Screenshot_20170907-154035.png Screenshot_20170907-154055.png :
     
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  18. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    That would be the way to go imo
     
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  19. GRNDNL

    GRNDNL Wannabe

    My engine builder had a q-jet spacer like that, I think it was a wilson (it looked really cool), on the dyno in place of my cheap 1/2 open wood spacer it made no change in hp or torque.

    Matt, cut the divider out and make a removable one in a couple of different heights, swap them out at the track and let us know what works best....
     
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  20. Rob Ross

    Rob Ross Well-Known Member

    I have one like that but never found a difference. Maybe it's time to try my current combo.
     

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