Main cap Tq Specs

Discussion in 'Wrenchin' Secrets' started by Briz, Mar 24, 2019.

  1. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Looked at another thread this morning and it had a spec sheet with all the Tq specs for the 400 - 455 engine.

    https://www.teambuick.com/reference/400-430-455_engine_torque.pdf

    Says main cap goes to 110 lbs. My old Chilton says 100 and I was told by a few members in the know 90. When I assembled the bottom end of the race engine I went 90 - 95. Is this going to be a problem? Would really hate to pull her apart after all the Black RTV on the girdle and pan seals.
     
  2. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    I've always done 110
     
  3. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    Main cap torque should duplicate the torque, and lube used, when it was align honed.. Your trying to duplicate the conditions that were present when the hole was made round, and sized.

    Having the correct information and duplicating the machine shop setup is especially critical if your not using a dial bore gauge to check size and out of round.

    You can play withTorque in 5 lbs increments from 90 to 110 lbs to adjust your sizing a few tenths.

    We use CMD-3 on the fasteners on all our mains, and set the torque to 100 ft lbs.. the CMD and the factory bolts repeat so well, I rarely have to fuss with it too much.

    Back when we used 3owt oil for bolt lube, there was a lot more fooling around, and studs were often a nitemare..

    JW
     
  4. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Ok, well then. Have no idea what the Tq used was when it was honed. Bought the block from Clifton Love at the swap meet last yr (BG). He said it had been completely machined and ready to build but didnt finish it due to his health problems and the associated cost of medical care. Using the Peterson oil pump makes way more vol of oil than this block can ever hope to accommodate. Did check the main bore Tq'd at 90 prior to assembly and it looked good. Guess I'll just run it and see what happens. Whats the worst that could happen? LoL
     
  5. Gallagher

    Gallagher Founders Club Member

    Give Clifton or Tim a call. They probably know.
     
  6. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    I am sure you will be fine, as long as the girdle was put on correctly, and it's not touching the registers next to the caps, they are less susceptible to minor differences in torque and lube.

    JW
     
  7. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

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  8. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Been there and done that twice.
     
  9. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    It seemed to fit very well. Dont see how there could be any variation in the installation. That thing is one heavy duty piece of steel. Kenny Voss saw that and said he'd never seen anything like it.
     
  10. 1973gs

    1973gs Well-Known Member

    My engine builder had the mains between 100-110(each one was different) with moly lube. When I took it apart after 1100 miles, I could see that the bearings on two of the mains were worn at the part line. The only way that I could see this happening is due to the bore being out of round. I had a buddy of mine, who used to be a machinist, measure my main bearing clearances. I ended up torquing all of them to 105 to maintain a round bore.
     

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  11. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    a little dirt under the bearing can cause a spot like that. it makes a little pinch point
     
  12. 1973gs

    1973gs Well-Known Member

    I can see that. There was no lack of dirt in this engine.:mad:
     

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