Lil help with some documentation please

Discussion in 'The "Paper Trail"' started by azstage1, Mar 25, 2012.

  1. azstage1

    azstage1 Chris Jones

    Bought a 71 Skylark Custom recently. Has all the original glove box items but I've never seen this one. Little help from you guys? No build sheets found so far.

    thanks.

    Chris IMG_0010.jpg
     
  2. william.ali.kay

    william.ali.kay Needs more cowbell!

    I believe its called an IBM card and has something to do with the shipping process when leaving the plant.
    Cool find!
     
  3. Bad Boattail

    Bad Boattail Guest

    It's a punch card, watch this video :TU:

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  4. GNandGS

    GNandGS Well-Known Member

    Crazy thing is somebody somewhere would know how to make that thing readable.
     
  5. Jim Jones

    Jim Jones Wretched Excess

    Chris.

    There are various versions of the IBM punch card. Your's is the one that shows options. Nice find.

    1971 Skylark Custom 2 Door Hardtop
    Zone/Dealer 19-507_The Gosnell Chevrolet Buick Co. Russellville, Arkansas
    W__Sandpiper Beige
    8___Dark Brown Top
    156_Saddle, Vinyl Notchback
    B5__Turbo Hydra-Matic 350 Transmission
    C6__Power Steering 17.6:1
    D1__Sonomatic Radio
    F1__Whitewall Tires G78-14
    I6__Air Conditioner
    L1__Soft-Ray Tinted Glass
    U6__Electric Clock
    V1__Deluxe Wheel Covers
     
  6. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Like a mini build sheet.
     
  7. Dan Healey

    Dan Healey Well-Known Member

    Stage 1's HAVE been documented with those... They were supposed to be removed by the dealer once the car arrived.
     
  8. azstage1

    azstage1 Chris Jones

    Thanks to all for the replies. Jim, thank you much for the decode. I have no build sheets for it so this will have to do. which are the deluxe wheel caps? does it speak to which steering wheel came on it? When I got it, it has a different steering wheel with after market wheels. Top is a tan / sandalwood thought not dark brown. Someone added a luggage rack too.
    Here are some pics that I taken if anyone cares. http://s919.photobucket.com/albums/ad31/usasquint/71 Skylark Custom/?start=all
     
  9. Jim Jones

    Jim Jones Wretched Excess

    Chris.

    The top may have been replaced at some point. The code on the trim tag "F" matches the the sales code of 8 on the punchcard. The code for a sandalwood top would be "E" with a sales code of 5.

    Sorry for the poor quality scans below, but the Skylark Custom should have come with the steering wheel as pictured. There should be an ample supply of 15" Saddle rally wheels available if you wanted to replace yours. The deluxe wheel cover is in the center of the second scan.

    71Dash.jpg 71WheelOpts.jpg
     
  10. azstage1

    azstage1 Chris Jones

    Ooops. You're right. Brown top. thanks again for the reference pics.
     
  11. Brad Conley

    Brad Conley RIP Staff Member

    Duane can decode those. As the old saying goes, he has the technology :laugh:.
     
  12. Duane

    Duane Member

    "Crazy thing is somebody somewhere would know how to make that thing readable. "

    Yeah well that would be me.
    Duane
     
  13. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    You can do it...

    Card uses IBM EBCDIC (Extended Binary Coded Decimal Interchange Code)...letters/numbers represented by 2 (hex) punches...numbers are "F0" - "F9", cap letters "C1" - "C9" for A - I, "D1" - "D9" for J - R...rest of alphabet not used on card...

    Top to bottom, there are 12 "lines" on card...values are C, D, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9...

    Columns are read l to r...numbers are single punch ("F" punch implied) in 0 - 9, letters two punches with punch in either "C" or "D" and a 0 -9 value...

    Reading column 1 (Plant) you get "C8" which is letter "H"...for Flint, reading columns 19-23 (Model) you get 4-4-4-3-7...and so on...

    Great find!
     
  14. BadBrad

    BadBrad Got 4-speed?

    Actually a Hollerith card invented by Herman Hollerith. His company in a merger became part of IBM. Card was developed for the 1890 US census, but the origins come from significantly earlier. A weaving loom to make blankets, tapestry, burlaps sacks, etc. is the true genesis of the Hollerith Card.
     
  15. staged70

    staged70 RIP

    brad you ARE the Cliff Claven of the Buick world:) It's amazing what you can learn about this stuff.
     
  16. robs71redriv

    robs71redriv robs71redriv

    you dont even have to go thru that much trouble -- the car info is typed across top option codes are below that -- Your key codes are also on the top so having this on the internet is not a great idea.
     
  17. robs71redriv

    robs71redriv robs71redriv


    This brings me back to high school and Fortran coding
    INFO IN PUNCH - with Headings along bottom that have differring titles from those typed on top
    Plant = H
    frame number =149629 = YIN
    Charge to 19507 + dealer code
    model year +1

    although color is typed as WW - punchs are XX

    heres a little guide card to make reading the punchs easier - first three rows indicate are letter groups (and 0 if no other punch in column)
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  18. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    True...punched card invented by Hollerith but coding is strictly IBM...

    ---------- Post added at 07:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:18 PM ----------

    ...S thru Z starts at E2 rather than E1...making E6 = W...began programming on 029 in '60s, can't help remembering this stuff...:)
     
  19. azstage1

    azstage1 Chris Jones

    Thank you all to those that weighed in on the card. I knew there were guys out there that were smart on these. I can't find a build sheet so far on the car so this card is all I got. Key codes are on the card but the I believe the column is not original to the car. The knobs are all different, it has an early eighties steering wheel, and there is a plastic collar on it wear the shift indicator connects. Don't think there should be plastic there.

    Would the card normally specify if tilt steering came in the car? Cuz it has tilt now.
     
  20. Duane

    Duane Member

    The card does specify if the car came with tilt steering, and the answer is that it did not.
    Duane

    PS.
    Even though the "punchouts" are supposed to follow the typed info along the bottom of the card I have found examples were the info did not match. I recently decoded one of these for a 69 GS Conv and the punchouts were quite different from the code. It was almost like they used an earlier version card when stamping the info into it.
     

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