Likely areas for a short? - Conv Top Motor

Discussion in 'The ragtop shop' started by 12 Volt Man, Apr 29, 2004.

  1. 12 Volt Man

    12 Volt Man Crazy From The Heat

    Well - hinges have been lubed, pump is filled to brim with fluid and my top motor still blows a fuse when I put it up OR down.

    This tells me there's got to be a short somewhere. I've done some basic checking for any exposed wires - but before I trace all the way back, under carpet, seats, etc...are there any infamous spots a wire might get pinched????

    Please help. I buy 20A fuses by the pound now.

    As always, thanks in advance for your valuable input.
    Randy
     
  2. yuk

    yuk Well-Known Member

    maybe the problem is inside the motor.

    have you tried unplugging the motor and then put a new fuse in, flip the switch and see the fuse blows?

    if it dont blow, i would think you most likely have a motor problem.
     
  3. GStage1

    GStage1 Always looking for parts!

    Make sure your factory wiring harness is inside the plastic loom from fuse box to under back seat. Pinch point or short area would be where the loom goes under the lower seat cushion near the bottom cushion seat anchor. If I were you , I would remove the seats and move the driver's side carpet to the pass side to access the wiring loom to check it for shorts.
     
  4. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    I am with Yuk. Check the motor.
     
  5. GStage1

    GStage1 Always looking for parts!

    As another test, you can disconnect the lift cylinders from the top mechanism and run the pump. See if it blows the fuse then.
     
  6. 12 Volt Man

    12 Volt Man Crazy From The Heat

    Thanks guys. Disconnected motor - no fuse blow.
    Disconnected lift cylinders - no fuse blow.
    I didn't state earlier that it actually begins the top movement - gets about 12" up before it blows the fuse.
    I guess I'm looking at a motor that is just getting old and putting too much draw on the current.
    Will check around for a healthy replacement.
    Thanks again.
     
  7. yuk

    yuk Well-Known Member

    did you know that the motor would rather you have the car running so it has a higher voltage to work with too?!?!

    your motor may just need dis-assembled and cleaned and re-lubed.
    if the car ever sat outdoors for an extended time with a bad top...th motor may have just gotten gunked up.

    since of all the hydraulic verts i have ever had, luckily none ever had problems....someone feel free correct me about the motor cleaning if i am wrong.

    i did have to do it on one of my scissor tops.
     
  8. Dan K

    Dan K Well-Known Member

    Cleaning those motors is VERY easy. Too, if you buy a used parts motor, it will probably need to be cleaned, anyway. I took the motor apart on my gold car, and it was full of crystalized gunk that took me about 40 minutes to get out of it. It works like a champ, now. It's worth a try, and will save you the time and money of finding a good one. By the way, does anyone have a spare good lift cylinder and pump line? Thanks, Dan
     
  9. yuk

    yuk Well-Known Member

    hey dan,
    when you did your motor clean-up, what did you use for lube before re-assembly? i have tried white lith and i have tried a couple diferent hard greases ...and wasnt too impressed with either. have you found something that you prefer?
    i have considered a touch of amsoil hard grease.
     

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