Interesting thoughts....

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Ken Mild, Dec 11, 2002.

  1. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    Interesting thoughts below:



    Looking back, it's hard to believe that we have
    lived as long as we have ...

    As children, we would ride in cars with no seat
    belts or air bags. Riding in the back of a pickup truck on a warm day was always
    a special treat.

    Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored
    lead-based paint. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors, or
    cabinets, and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets.
    (Not to mention hitchhiking to town as a young kid!)

    We drank water from the garden hose and not from a
    bottle. Horrors.

    We would spend hours building our go-carts out of
    scraps and then rode down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes.
    After running into the bushes a few times we learned to solve the problem.

    We would leave home in the morning and play all day,
    as long as we were back when the streetlights came on. No one was able to
    reach us all day. No cell phones. Unthinkable.

    We played dodgeball and sometimes the ball would really hurt. We got cut and broke bones and broke
    teeth, and there were no law suits from these accidents. They were accidents.
    No one was to blame, but us. Remember accidents?

    We had fights and punched each other and got black
    and blue and learned to get over it.

    We ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank sugar
    soda but we were never overweight -- we were always outside playing. We
    shared one grape soda with four friends, from one bottle and no one died from
    this.

    We did not have Playstations, Nintendo 64, X Boxes,
    video games at all, 99 channels on cable, video tape movies, surround
    sound, personal cell phones, Personal Computers, Internet chat rooms ... we had
    friends. We went outside and found them. We rode bikes or walked to a
    friend's home and knocked on the door, or rung the bell or just walked in and talked
    to them.

    Imagine such a thing. Without asking a parent! By ourselves!
    Out there in the cold cruel world! Without a guardian. How did we do
    it?

    We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and
    ate worms and although we were told it would happen,
    we did not put out very many eyes, nor did the
    worms live inside us forever.

    Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the
    team. Those who didn't, had to learn to deal with disappointment . . . !

    Some students weren't as smart as others so they failed a grade and were held
    back to repeat the same grade . . . Horrors! Tests were not adjusted for any
    reason.

    Our actions were our own. Consequences were
    expected. No one to hide behind. The idea of a parent bailing us out
    if we broke a law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law, imagine that!

    This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers and problem
    solvers and inventors, ever. The past 50 years has been an
    explosion of innovation and new ideas. We had freedom, failure, success and
    responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it all.
     
  2. Dennis Halladay

    Dennis Halladay Well-Known Member

    The days when you were your own person and other people didn't have to tell you how to live your life which has no effect on threir life. The cycle of things is incredible, we have as a community worked so hard at making ourselves more efficient and in turn made a world that can live on fewer working people. In turn we needed to create jobs to keep all of those unneeded people working, now the ones we decided were not needed for everyday function are working to tell us how to live. I remember riding around in the back window of my parents Catalina because it was a better view, my two older brothers had the window seats. I rode a bike that my older non mechanical brother just fixed up down the biggest hill arround, half way down found out that the bolt in the middle of the handle bars needs to be tight. I would go back and live in the seventies or even the sixties (which I now nothing about) in a heartbeat. Most of the work saving creations we have come up with in the last 30 years have created more trouble than they are worth. As more people spend more time keeping up with the changing times and forgetting that kids can't actually raise themselves, and the kids that raised themselves thinking that they turned out just fine and doing the same with their kids. At least we have created more judge, lawer and police positions to be filled so the people that are no longer needed for production and daily living work have a place to work. I need to go back to work and make a more productive work environment now, have a great day.
     
  3. Dale

    Dale Sweepspear

    Ahhh.. the good ol' days.
    I for one am glad I grew up during a time that this thread describes.
    Remember chemistry sets that had plenty of toxic and corrosive chemicals for us to PLAY with?
    Estes rockets.
    Taping an Estes rocket motor to a Hot Wheels car and letting er rip. :Brow:


    Nowadays though the majority of children are sheilded from failure.
    Everyone is a winner, we don't keep score.
    If they do fail, it was someone else's fault.
    Your special.
    Wear a helmet.
    Etc., Etc....Blah, Blah, Blah.

    I realize the world is a different place today
    but even so.
    The world was different when I was growing up in the 60's than it was when my dad grew up in the 20's. (They had me late.)
    Yet, I did things my father did, such as go- carts, dodge ball, climbing trees and making tree houses, to name a few.

    I am amazed at how few kids I see outside playing, even during the summer.
    In a neighborhood full of kids, my son will be the only one outside for the majority of the day. ( My wife Lynn and myself make sure he doesn't spend all day inside.)
    It's too hot I guess in the summer and too cold in the winter, heaven forbid they should be a little uncomfortable. They would rather sit in front of the computer, or TV playing electronic games while their brains rot and their waist size grows.
    They don't seem to have the breadth of knowledge myself or my peers had at the same age.
    Ooopps.. I'm digressing into a "In my day!"
    rant, but you get the idea.
    The thing I find puzzling is these are the offspring of the kid's who grew up doing the things mentioned in this thread.
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2002
  4. Leviathan

    Leviathan Inmate of the Month

    ...THAT explains why Ricers think 16.8 is fast! It's SAFE-fast.
    :laugh:
     
  5. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    Yes. Well said. I truly fear the what the future holds when seeing the youth of today. I mean, I was no angel.......but I valued human life and respected my elders, as I still do. You just don't get that today. It really is amazing to me when I see young kids today, it seems like they can't even make heads or tails out of how to have or initiate a conversation with you, or someone older than them. They just have this dumb, "huh?", look on their faces. Maybe it's because they never get out and away from the TV or computer chat rooms like you point out. They seem totally socially incapable of communicating intelligently. I just don't remember it being that bad when I was a kid. It's really weird man.

    It's worse here too because it seems like evryones first car is a Lexus GS400 or a 535i.

    Just for sh!ts and giggles, my first ride was a 73 Buick Estate Wagon. Some of my friends first rides were 66 Fury wagon, 72 Fury III, mid seventies Gremlin, seventy something Dodge Aspen Wagon (ugh). I mean, those are character builders. You worked your way up the ladder. Nothing was handed to you. You appreciated the finer things like the Corvette or the SuperBee or the Stage 1 when you finally achieved them. Same goes for a win in sports. A win was sweet because the previous loss gave you the character and determination you needed to succeed.

    No Pledge of allegiance.
    No Christmas tree
    No flag
    No dodge ball
    No losers



    .....NO WINNERS!
     
  6. Yardley

    Yardley Club Jackass

    A bunch of punks in my area went on a vandalizing spree one night 3 years ago. They spray painted several cars, houses and a church. They were 16 and driving...


    A LEXUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    They got caught thanks to a neighbor who happened to be up going to the bathroom late at night and called the cops on them. My wife not only testified against them, but she suggested (as part of their civil service hours punishment) that they work on Habitat For Humanity to see what goes into building a house and what impact a home can have on people.

    The judge thought it was a good idea. A year later my wife got an apology letter from one of the punks who said working for Habitat was a great thing and he was ashamed of his behavior. Huh. Sometimes it works.
     
  7. GSXMEN

    GSXMEN Got Jesus?

    Well said guys!!!:TU:

    I guess those really were 'the days'!!:) The worst part is...you're not making ANY of it up - that's pretty much how I remember it all!:rolleyes:

    Things sure have changed....:(
     
  8. Leviathan

    Leviathan Inmate of the Month

    My better half is a teacher and can supply several good experiences of how discipline WORKS on kids as opposed to a "good talking too" where they just tune you out and are grateful to have gotten away with it. Glad to hear that case turned out!
     
  9. Truzi

    Truzi Perpetual Student

    I hear you all. I'm disgusted with how we are protected from ourselves and how so many feel it is the governments job to raise kids. I find it strange that so many younger people are afraid a little work, have difficulty finding their way around the block, and can't relate to anyone +/- 2 years in age.

    On the other hand, I have worked at a few highschools; one mainstream, and one for severe behavioral problems (SBH). I was fortunate enough at the mainstream school to work with a few students who could had good people skills, common sense, and weren't boxed upin front of a TV 24/7. When one student asked if they had color TV when I was a teeenager, only a couple students knew enough to laugh with me.

    The behavioral problem school - well, many of them had rough lives. As a result, they had no problem relating to adults, though they had a lot of respect problems. Similar to the Habitat for Humanity post, it seemed the best punishment we could give them was something that made them make up for what they did. Spending 30 minutes fixing something they broke (direct consequences) was aweful to them, they'd rather sit in detention for a week feeling they "got away with it." Go figure.
     
  10. gsxnut

    gsxnut Well-Known Member

    Society today

    I also remember growing up like the above has been stated. I had two things that most kids today seem to lack. FEAR and RESPECT. I both feared and respect my elders because I was certain that if I did not I was going to get it good. I really needed sometimes being the bonehead that I was.

    In todays litergical society everyone is so scared to tell it like it is kids have free reign and power over their parents like never before and they know it. They know if they scream "STOP HITTING ME" after a spanking in a store or school that their parents or teachers will be hauled off.

    My grandmonther used to teach head start which is like pre-school and was slugged in the gut by a smart-a** little 5 year old punk. She ended up quiting over the deal. She was also cursied at on a regular basis by 5 year olds and had no power to stop it. That totally blew me away.

    We have become a soceity run by our children. I see so many people sooth their childern by giving them everything they want. I can remember several occations when I wanted something and was told no and if I made a scene about it I found out what no really meant.

    Maybe we have so much wealth we can buy Lexus's and BMW's for our 16 year olds and let them tear them up. Or give them a cell phone, TV in their rooms, computer, or video games. It is great to be able to provide for your childern but make them earn some of it themselves.

    I was taught from an early age that if I wanted something I needed to earn it. I have been in the working force since I was in the 5th grade. My parents did an excellent job of giving me what I needed in life but not spoiling me. I hope someday that I can do the same for my childern if I ever have them.

    I do not believe that all kids are bad or spoiled but I do think the percentage is rising. I fear what will happen to me when I am old and these disrespectful, disobedient, punks are in charge. Do I hear EUTHENATION? Only time will tell.

    Mark
     
  11. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    Well said mark. One of the main reasons I'm moving out of North Jersey is because of the lifestyle. Even though I am somewhat of a disciplinarian, I fear that there is too much negative influence in my area. The Smith's and Jones's theory is alive and well in Bergen County and getting worse by the day. I'm hoping the simple life in Maine will be refreshing for my family and I. Some may think of it as running away from the problems. So be it. I will do what I have to do to bring my children up in surroundings and in a society which more closely resembles the one I was brought up in. When you learned to appreciate the wind blowing through the trees, when you tried to make out the animal shapes in the clouds, when building models collecting bugs or stones or using a wood burning kit helped you use the brainpower you had and sparked the curiosity you needed to generate questions which would ultimately lead to very informative answers and do you a lot better in life than wondering when the next version of PlayStation is coming out.

    But this problem on the whole, transcends state lines. It's more of a societal transformation which has taken place over the years due to many things. Not the least of which is bad, irresponsible parenting. Like deciding it's more important that I put my infants in daycare so I can work full time because I want to be able to have my 5 bedroom home, 4 car garage and tennis court. Everything that's important to the PARENT and not to the CHILD. It's amazing how far a little love will go in the absence of those ammenities. When you have children, that becomes the single most important reason for you being on this earth and when you put your wants and desires before the needs of a child, the result is the idiot kids we are left to deal with today who disrespect their elders, have NO respect for authority, can't tell you what the boiling point of water is or what their state capital is for that matter. God help us all.
     
  12. 11SecondGS

    11SecondGS ROCK THIS

    Re: Society today

    I strongly agree.
    I don't have any kids, but someday I will. Believe me when I say this, my kids will now the value of work, and oppurtunity.

    JP
     
  13. BuickLark66

    BuickLark66 Lost in space

    I grew up on Long Island in the late 70s early 80s. Myself and my friends rode our bikes everywhere (only wore helmets when we rode large ramps and that was by choice). When I was 14 my mother would sometimes pick me up at my friends house and let me drive her 77 caprice classic home (2 miles on quiet suburban streets). Summers were spent swimming in pools, riding our bikes the 7+ miles to the beach and taking train rides into manhattan without our parents consent. We built BMX tracks and ramps. Raced R/C cars, built mini bikes and spent hours talking about the muscle cars that we would own someday. We financed our toys by mowing lawns, raking leaves, shoveling snow and paper routes. My parents would reward me for good grades and were pretty generous around the holidays but I never got something just because I wanted it.

    We were not perfect kids, we did get in our share of trouble but never hurt anyone or damaged someones property. We were respectful to adults and authorities.

    Everyone in our neighborhood knew one another, knew whos kids where who and wouldn't hesitate to either yell at you or call your parents to tell them what mischeif you were up to.

    My parents were never afraid to lay a hand on me if I got out of line. I do not consider myself an abused child. Just someone who got what they deserved when they deserved it.

    I once broke my ankle riding a friends ramp on my bike. My folks took me to the hospital and got it taken care of. The parents of the kid whos ramp it was sent flowers. No lawyers needed.

    I am sure it wasn't really as idellic as I remember it but It has to have been a better then it is now.

    The more I see of the disrespectful little punks these days and the way that soceity has changed the less I want to have kids.
     

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