I Want a Hobart 140 - Change My Mind?

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by knucklebusted, Oct 20, 2018.

  1. knucklebusted

    knucklebusted Well-Known Member

    I have no formal welding training and next to no experience, most just heating stuff so I can get it loose.

    But, I've got it in my head I need a welder. I've beg, pleaded and paid for welding in the past but as I get closer to retirement age, I think I want to take up welding.

    To that end, I think the Hobart 140 looks like a good choice for a guy that might need to fix a body panel, odd things around the house and nothing thicker than a GS frame.

    Anyone know of a better welder in this price range? Under $500 seems within my tolerance for education.

    https://www.amazon.com/Hobart-50055...atcorr&keywords=hobart+handler+190+mig+welder
     
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  2. Matt Knutson

    Matt Knutson Well-Known Member

    I have the Hobart 140 and I think it is the best bang for the buck. I read many many reviews about the H140 and I could not find any that were negative except from people that owned Miller 180's and higher model numbers. The Miller 180 with Auto-set works very well, but, I could not justify the extra money at the time. I decided to go with the Hobart 140 so that I could use it anywhere (115volt) and I wanted my money to stay in this country (made in USA). Northern Tool usually has it for a nice price, too.
     
  3. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Lincoln is a better machine, $ 585 at lowes, take an active military or veteran and get an additional 5% maybe 10% don't remember. If you want more versatility for later on the mp210 is an awesome machine will do everything, but its $800
     
  4. sriley531

    sriley531 Excommunicado

    Honart 140 is a good hobbyist welder. I ended up going with an Eastwood 175 due to the fact I wanted infinite power level control instead of just 4 present levels and I had 220 at my disposal. But I don't think the average hobbyist (myself included) would be hindered by the Hobart 140. Bang for the buck, it's a solid machine.
     
  5. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    Hey Greg...
    I have a 185 Miller with a spool gun for aluminum. That machine has a 40% (?) duty cycle. Thats another issue to consider. Personally? Take a night school class, "Welding for Seniors". Since youve never welded, it sure wont hurt to learn some welding basics from the git-go. Classes can go from rudimentary "farm welding" to high frequency square wave TIG welding for exotic stuff, coupled with techniques etc. JMHO.... ws
     
  6. Golden Oldie 65

    Golden Oldie 65 Well-Known Member

    I bought it's predecessor, the Hobart Handler 120 about 30 years ago. A great little welder that I am still using and haven't one lick of trouble with it in all these years.
     
  7. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    I have the Eastwood 175 also. I could make sparks with a stick welder and welds that looked like lumpy turds. Took the night welding class at a local tech school. Picked up enough skill to make pretty, solid welds with the stick and my Mig. Yr ago I got a 200A Tig. Now I need to go back and figure out how to make it work.
     
  8. Aaron65

    Aaron65 Well-Known Member

    I've had a Hobart 140 for about 10 years. I've used it a lot, and the only thing I've had to do was replace the drive wheel on it (it started slipping because, well, the wire groove was worn out).
     
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  9. moleary

    moleary GOD Bless America

  10. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Whatever you decide to get it should have the option to use shielding gas. Flux core wire is harder to use.
     
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  11. Tom Miller

    Tom Miller Old car enthusiast

    I have a Hobart 140 with gas conversion(don't even waste 1 second of your time with that flux crap) it is a fantastic little welder.
    It has been used on many cars doing everything from installing full quarter panels, quarter skins(lots of welding) , fabricated motor mount plates welded to frame, suspension brackets,etc.
    I spend the extra money and get the Argon/CO2 blend.
    Once you figure out your heat setting and wire speed for the material you are working on, you're golden.
    I also have a big Millermatic 200, and I only use it for really heavy duty stuff, like 1/4 thick plate steel car trailer frame,etc.
    I have used the big Miller in the past on sheetmetal, but it is overkill and harder to get dialed in for the thin small stuff.
     
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  12. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

    Same here! Might be the Handler 90 tho. Been using it for over 30 years.
    Hobart was bought out by Miller about 10 years ago. IIRC, the Hobart line was downgraded a bit to be more of a hobby welder and the Millers were the higher end models.

    I upgraded to a TIG welder this year, an Alphatig 200. Cost about $700. It's amazing on sheetmetal and can weld aluminum too. Also can be used as a stick welder. It takes more skill to tig weld than a mig, but if you've done gas welding, you've got a head start as the technique is similar.

    A Hobart mig would still be a great choice for what you are planning.
     
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  13. knucklebusted

    knucklebusted Well-Known Member

    I keep calling and asking and they trying to enroll me in a certificate-issuing day class program. I've given up and have friends that weld. I'll just rely on them to tell me what I'm doing wrong after I've watched all the youtube videos I can find.
     
  14. 70skylark350

    70skylark350 Jesus loves you unconditionally

    I have the Miller equivalent, love it, have run many spools of wire through it with noting but good results. I agree that a solid wire and shielding gas is a must. I am a certified wilder with 25 years experience, not trying to seem smarter that anyone but I would go with .030 wire and 75/25 mix gas.
    I do not agree that the Lincoln is a better machine, in my experience Miller makes a superior product unless you are in the pipeline welding field, in which case those guys prefer the big Lincoln.
    You would have no regrets with the Hobart, go for it.
     
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  15. Donuts & Peelouts

    Donuts & Peelouts Life's 2 Short. Live like it.

    So has your mind changed
     
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  16. I have a Millermatic 135 and it is perfect for hobby use. I welded up these control arms with it. I believe the newest version is called the 140

    control arm project.png
     
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  17. Matt Knutson

    Matt Knutson Well-Known Member

    Miller & Hobart are virtually one in the same. They share the same location / address.
     
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  18. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Miller are the ones I always see on the pros trucks.
     
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  19. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Miller for tig , Lincoln for mig, that's how it is in the bible belt ha
     
  20. knucklebusted

    knucklebusted Well-Known Member

    I don't think so. For bang for buck, it was always this or a Lincoln and the Lincoln is a little more expensive for the same product specs.
     

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