I always did like playing with fire

Discussion in 'Race 400/430/455' started by hugger, Jul 4, 2016.

  1. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    In my inability to satisfied with anything I have I decided to push my poor little stock rod engine a little further wish me luck ha

    Was going to drop compression and change cam to better accommodate the blower, but after some words of encouragement and a hard night of Dos Equis XX consumption I said to hell with that so I'm gonna be running 11.25compression with around 6lbs of boost non intercooled just e85, tuning window will kinda small but will should be absolutely violent HP, not going to load it hard at the track till it gets a new bottom end so it will just be terrorizing the street till then. NA HP is around 650 and 6lbs will probably bump it up juuuust a tad ha. Working on rounding up a F1 head unit now until then I'm just gonna ride the bracket and crank pulley around, that should provide extra motivation to get something hung on it
     

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  2. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

  3. Thumper (aka greatscat)

    Thumper (aka greatscat) Well-Known Member

    Keep us posted.
    I was gonna try a F2 on a 11.0 motor with inter cooler and meth injection then realized my 'nads weren't big enough to chance it.
    I have a new 9 to 1 motor with blower cam on the stand right now and going to run 6psi , feel more safe now. But will be interested in your experience. Hope it works for you.
    Gary
     
  4. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    I think as long as I don't rattle it , and keep the rpm in check it will live for awhile, oh yea its ungirdled too, does have billet main caps and a half fill tho
     
  5. Smokey15

    Smokey15 So old that I use AARP bolts.

    Are you going to send your carb back to Eric to get it converted to blow-through?
     
  6. Buickrat1

    Buickrat1 Well-Known Member

    I have run 17 lbs of boost with 11/1, on E85 in a coyote engine on an NA long block and never had any issues. As long as everything is right it shouldn't be a problem.
     
  7. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

    I'm thinking of bumping my L6 engine up to 9.0-9.5:1 compression for the turbo application. The only thing that makes me nervous doing so is the iron head. 11+ ought to be fun!
     
  8. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Gonna have him do a new 4150, as scary looking as a blow thru Dominator is , Eric said he feels better about doing a 4150 and that way I can sell the Dominator or just set it on the shelf in case I have to go back NA for one reason or another
     
  9. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I think Bob Makley found it necessary to pull a bunch of timing at launch and then ramp it back in:laugh: You might need to do that. He had an MSD Digital 7 ignition.
     
  10. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Yea the digital 7 is packed with goodies, its something I've been looking at
     
  11. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Had to a few little things to suit my needs, milled .200 off the stands so I could use a PS bracket as an attachment point for the engine strut. And as a bonus by doing this I can use the two extra 3/8-16 holes to help stiffen the bracket even more. And of course the back plate wouldn't clear the Mallory comp 9000 so it had to be modded a touch, then there are two bolts the were made to pass thru both brackets but one interfered with one of the head stands so I tapped the holes to eliminate that issue. Then the water pump pulley issue arose but I think I've found a March pulley that will resolve that hurdle. Nothing major but goes to show nothing is ever easy seems like ha. Ignore the bolt with a stack of washers its just temporary hope to find some stainless ARP hardware to dress it up a touch I hate hardware store bolts with a passion
     

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  12. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    A carb from Eric at HorsePower innovations , SM pro hat with a 1in spacer and a F1 series blower will round out the setup.
     
  13. jake csordas

    jake csordas Well-Known Member

    You will be fine at low boost like that. Just don't detonate it. Try to shift at 6k or less. It will live. I shift mine at 6k and it is stock block with a halo. All mine have broke from detonation. I learned the hard way that you do need a large return fuel line.
     
  14. gmcgruther

    gmcgruther Well-Known Member

    Pay attention to crankshaft end play.
     
  15. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    F1c-94 Procharger will be here Thursday, Eric is started on the Carb, gonna be about 3weeks on it. He's doing a 950hp E85 with billet base plate and blocks, and I went ahead and opted for Satin black powder coat. Can't decide on the Carb hat, the Pro series Procharger hat looks awesome and should provide more good clearance, but EVERYONE screams how well the EV hats work...did discover another option on the bypass valve that is good bit cheaper than a "Big Red" and is a proven product. Hope to have it up and going by end of August. Pics will follow here very soon
     
  16. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Just waiting on Carb to get back everything else is complete, new throttle cable,bracket,Carb adapter, relocate fuel regulator, re-engineered the blower bracket for more rigidity etc etc. Can't wait to hear it fire up.
     
  17. Jim Rodgers

    Jim Rodgers Well-Known Member

    Camera broke?
     
  18. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Nah camera works but my technical ability needed to post them from my phone is nonexistent ha
     
  19. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    Just email the pics to you PC confuser's email account, then save them to the confuser, post, easy peasy.





    Derek
     

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