How much towing capacity does a vehicle need to tow a 67 GS400?

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by NZ GS 400, Oct 30, 2018.

  1. NZ GS 400

    NZ GS 400 Gold Level Contributor

    Hi guys,

    I have zilch experience with such things. My wife and I are in the market for an SUV here in New Zealand. I figure it makes sense to get a vehicle that could tow the Buick on a trailer. I know that the shipping weight of the 67 is 3199 lbs base curb weight. Does that mean that i need to be able to pull that plus 15%?

    Thanks for your input.
     
  2. john.schaefer77

    john.schaefer77 Well-Known Member

    Dont forget the weight of the trailer.
     
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  3. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    I'd want at least a 6500lb tow rating
     
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  4. JZRIV

    JZRIV Platinum Level Contributor

    Preferably 10,000lb minimum in my opinion. Can you get by with less, yes but always best to have a safety margin. Towing in flat geography vs mountainous terrain makes a big difference in needs. Also a factor is how often you will tow and how far. Never been to NZ but I think there are some pretty big mountains there?
     
  5. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    3199 seems about 500 lbs light.

    The best way to go is to figure the actual weight of the car and trailer. Take that and go shopping for the right rig. A 3/4 ton truck is hard to beat though.
     
  6. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Minimum 3/4 ton. 1 ton preferably. Also, the longer the wheelbase on the towing vehicle the better.
     
  7. ilikebmx999

    ilikebmx999 Well-Known Member

    That’s such a blanket statement. A new 1/2 ton f150 can tow as much as an older 3/4 ton with ease.


    I towed my 1970 GS plus a uhaul trailer (which are not light) with my 01 Silverado 2wd 5.3. I think it was rated in the 8500lb area? Either way it did it no problem in both stopping, accelerating/maintaining speed and had no sway.

    A trailer with electric brakes and a truck/suv with the capability of towing the weight of the vehicle plus trailer (plus cargo and occupants) will be just fine. I’ve always liked to be no more than 80% of the max towing but there’s a reason they have a max towing. A weight distributing hitch will also help the safety.
     
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  8. cruzn57

    cruzn57 cruzn57

    ditto the 1/2 ton .
    GMC, 2014, 5.3,
    H ave towed all over the USA, never any issues,
    never struggled on any hill, or had any brake problems ( tlr has brakes)
    355 hp, 383 lb torque,
    rated 11,200 lbs towing.
     
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  9. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    I had a 99 Durango with a 5.9 liter and 3.90 gears. I towed my 69 all over east coast effortlessly. I would assume the newer Durangos are just as stout. My 99 had an 8K lb towing capacity.
     
  10. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    The F-350 we have weighs 6400 lbs with me in it on the scales. The gvw is 9900. My open trailer with my 71 GS on it weighs 6000 lbs. As a rule I never like to tow at the vehicles maximum capacity. Maybe it's old school thinking, I don't know.
     
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  11. 1972Mach1

    1972Mach1 Just some M.M.O.G. guy.....

    Having owned 1/2, 3/4, and 1 tons, the 1/2 will get the job done, but bigger is obviously better, and I won't go back to a 1/2 ton ever. You don't want something that whatever you're towing can take over and have the tail wagging the dog....Now, the fact that the original poster is located in New Zealand probably has some effect on what he has available to him.......
     
  12. NZ GS 400

    NZ GS 400 Gold Level Contributor

    Thanks for your replies. Most American rigs are unavailable or or prohibitively expensive unfortunately. I am looking at Choices like Toyota, Mazda, Hyundai, Jeep. I should have specified.

    Anyone familiar with the Toyota highlander or mazda cx9? Nissan x trail? SUV Preference over truck. We have a baby on the way as well!
     
  13. sriley531

    sriley531 Excommunicado

    Towed my 72 Skylark on an open trailer with my '14 Ram 1500 to BG and back last week. Towed like a dream. Truck didn't hunt gears, was dead stable, no problems stopping, and eaked out almost 14 mpg's. If I was towing weekly I'd probably step up to a 3/4 ton, but for occasional towing, a modern 1/2 is no slouch. My truck is rated for just over 10k, so I was at maybe 60% (I did have probably another 500 pounds worth of stuff in the bed too). It does probably help I upgraded to 10ply e rated tires. Still, it depends on where you're going and how often your towing IMO.
     
  14. FJM568

    FJM568 Well-Known Member

    I towed my 66 Skylark on a 2000lb trailer(figure between 5600-5800 total weight) behind my 2016 diesel Chevy Colorado without any issues to the GS Nats this year and last year. Got 16-17mpg doing it.

    I know the diesel Colorado's have been available in Australia and SE Asia before they were available here in the US.

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  15. 1972Mach1

    1972Mach1 Just some M.M.O.G. guy.....

    Well, a Google search has the Highlander's towing capacity pegged at 5,000, and the CX9 is 3,500. I wouldn't feel safe, and I don't think either one of those two would be very happy pulling 6,000+, anyway. You're kind of in a tough spot, might not be able to get a "do anything" rig over there. Might look into getting an SUV you like, and then a used truck for towing the car.
     
  16. JZRIV

    JZRIV Platinum Level Contributor

    Ed if those listed above are your biggest choices for tow vehicles, you'll be better off driving the car instead of towing. Any mid size SUV won't have the capacity you need. If you can move up in size to a Toyota Sequoia you could probably get by. Those are probably between 7-8k capacity
    A Toyota Tundra Truck would handle it sufficiently.
     
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  17. NZ GS 400

    NZ GS 400 Gold Level Contributor

    Ok, I think I was dreaming about being able to do it with a mid sized suv. I will appreciate the comments.
     
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  18. ilikebmx999

    ilikebmx999 Well-Known Member

    I don’t know if there’s an NZ equivalent but if it’s a vehicle available in both markets, trailerlife.com has great tow guides that lists tow capacities for each model year.
     
  19. Big Bufford

    Big Bufford Well-Known Member

    My next door neighbor has a Toyota Sequoia V8 (based on a full size Tundra pick up I believe?). A couple years ago his family was in Arkansas for Christmas and he ended up buying a ‘58 Chevy pick-up while he was there, rented a U-haul trailer and drug it home. He made it home safely but said it was all the Toyota wanted. Keep in mind he had 4 small kids and wife plus all their luggage for the week in the SUV as well. That’s the problem with SUV’s, they don’t have the payload capacity of a pick-up. You’ll be carrying close to 1,000 lbs of tongue weight on the vehicle. Personally I wouldn’t use anything smaller than a 1/2 ton based SUV or pick-up.
     
  20. DasRottweiler

    DasRottweiler -BuickAddict-

    I tow my 70 Skylark on an 18 'tilt trailer short distances with my E250 van which has 6500 towing capacity. Trailer weighs 2500 , weighed the 70, she came in at 3852 with me in it. So I am really close to my limit but the dragstrip is only 8.1 miles away..... Jim
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2018

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