How do I get this off?

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Matt Ennis, Feb 14, 2020.

  1. Matt Ennis

    Matt Ennis Well-Known Member

    Hey guys I finally got around to attempting to take the small block out and tranny to make the swap. How do i get the bar that the radiator mounts to off? 20200214_134550.jpg
     
  2. GSX 554

    GSX 554 Gold Level Contributor

    I don't think you want to remove the Radiator Support . But you could use a SAWZ ALL . lol
     
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  3. 1972Mach1

    1972Mach1 Just some M.M.O.G. guy.....

    Radiator support does not come off, you lift the engine over it.
     
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  4. Matt Ennis

    Matt Ennis Well-Known Member

    Alright thank you. I thought it did because someone posted it was easier to take the front grill off?
     
  5. Matt Ennis

    Matt Ennis Well-Known Member

    Also does anyone know if the TA long tube headers will fit on a 69 430 without modifications? Should i put them on the new motor before dropping it in?
     
  6. Redmanf1

    Redmanf1 Gold Level Contributor

    Do not attach the headers to the engine before you drop it in. Put the headers in the engine compartment ready for install. Install the headers before you put the motor mount bolts in so you can lift the engine.
     
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  7. StfSocal

    StfSocal Well-Known Member

    This is true but that top piece is not removable from the lower half. There are 4 bolts on the top (two per side into the fenders), two mounts to the frame (called radiator support mounts, they are like body mounts), and then two bars that attach underneath (one under the battery tray and the other under the charcoal canister). Once you remove those, then remove the bumper and support the fenders as they are not dangling in the front lol.

    Attached is what that bar is a part of.

    Other than that, if you have a engine hoist you should be able to lift it up and over that piece. Just make sure you have the clearance above.
     

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  8. BuickV8Mike

    BuickV8Mike SD Buick Fan

    Don't remove it! Keep going. Is your hood off?
     
  9. BYoung

    BYoung Stage me

    Is this a trick question on Valentine's Day?
     
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  10. Smokey15

    Smokey15 So old that I use AARP bolts.

    The tighter the engine hoist arm is to the top of the engine, the better. DO NOT over-extend the hoist top arm. Have the "legs" extended as far as you can and still get it under the car. Be certain you have someone standing on the hoist base if you have to lift engine high. Easy to get hurt or put an engine through a windshield if You aren't careful. Not trying to scare You, I just want You to have zero problems.
    Hopefully, You will have someone there who has pulled engines before. Be careful! If You were near my locale, I'd help.
     
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  11. Matt Ennis

    Matt Ennis Well-Known Member

    Thanks fir all the help guys, this is the first car motor I've pulled. I've done a boat before but that was pretty easy. Everything seems pretty easy so far just a few more bolts and should be ready to pull. About to take the hood off and yes i will wait until i have help.
     
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  12. steve covington

    steve covington Well-Known Member

    WAIT!!! Before you remove the hood, drill a small (1/8") hole through each hinge and into the lower sheet metal just barely through to allow EASIER hood re=alignment, unless this is a concourse car. (Highly unlikely as you are doing this for your first time)Put some kind of a stop (washers, nuts, etc) on the drill bit to only allow about 3/8 " drill bit travel so you don't accidentally damage the outer sheet metal. You can just use a cotter pin or drill bit to help re=align the hood when reinsstalling it.
     
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  13. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    I ran into the same issue on my '56 Chevy. It was a six cylinder and just about everybody I asked told me that you had to either remove the radiator support or cut the top bar, then after installing the new engine, weld it back in place. I didn't want to do either. I did get the stovebolt out by removing the transmission (a three-speed stick), and installed the 264 Buick with the tranny attached. I practically had to stand the engine vertically to do it, but the top bar stayed put.
     
  14. Matt Ennis

    Matt Ennis Well-Known Member

    Getting closer
     
  15. Matt Ennis

    Matt Ennis Well-Known Member

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  16. Matt Ennis

    Matt Ennis Well-Known Member

    Can someone please post a photo of their intake without the air cleaner on. There are some differences in the holes and not sure what goes where? 20200216_174132.jpg
     

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  17. Matt Ennis

    Matt Ennis Well-Known Member

    Anyone know why someone would do this? My 350 just had a bolt?
     

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  18. hwprouty

    hwprouty Platinum Level Contributor

    That is an adjustable oil pressure unit if I'm thinking properly!
     
  19. 71Buickguy

    71Buickguy Well-Known Member

    Yes it is!!
     
  20. BBBPat

    BBBPat Well-Known Member

    I wouldve used the inboard set of holes. Less strain on the bolts and plate. ALWAYS try to stay in as close to parallel with the lifting device; even if pulling sideways. Five degrees off center can change a 10 ton eye bolt to a few hundred pounds in a hurry. The inboard holes are for a Q-jet and the outers are for an edelhoser.
     
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