High flow Filter

Discussion in 'Race 400/430/455' started by Briz, Apr 1, 2016.

  1. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    After getting some water in the engine while on the dyno I pulled the intake and oil pan to inspect and clean up the mess. Once it was all back together R&R the filter and put fresh oil in it. When I removed the filter something clunked inside it. This is what I found when it was cut open 1459529483216[1].jpg 1459530097719[1].jpg

    Is there a part number for a high flow oil filter? Figured K&N was about as good as they got.
     
  2. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    System 1
     
  3. Jim Rodgers

    Jim Rodgers Well-Known Member

    Short housing System 1. Nothing else.
     
  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

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  5. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    X4.

    Devon
     
  6. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Ok Thanks!
     
  7. TA Perf

    TA Perf Member

    If your going to use a paper filter I use AC or Wix. I run a short System 1 on the wagon. I should use the long housing only because it has more screen area to move oil through. Just don't have the room.
     
  8. BuickGSrules

    BuickGSrules Gold Level Contributor

    Mike, can I get a system 1 for my Peterson setup?
     
  9. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Do you have a part number for the Wix?
     
  10. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    Wix 51258. Napa gold is the same thing, just drop the first digit.
    Patrick
     
  11. Bluzilla

    Bluzilla a.k.a. "THE DOCTOR"

    I only use the "Systems 1" filters on my Skylark engines. Have been since they first came out in the early 90's. I use the long filter most of the time only changing it out with the short filter when I attach my 4" Ram-Air hoses when racing. The 4" hose on that side won't clear the long filter, but just squeeks by the short filter.
    Briz, ever wonder how I kept those journals on the crankshaft you are using in this engine in such good shape after 21 years?.... Now you know.:cool:

    Larry
     

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  12. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Id like to use the System 1 set up but for now just need to get this in the car and running. Im sure in time I'll find a deal on a used set up. Cant have a brand new unit on my Recycled race car
     
  13. gsx678

    gsx678 Well-Known Member

    I run a long system 1 on my 70 skylark with a 455.
    Nice filter but mine always leaks a little.
     
  14. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    That's a first, mine doesn't leak a drop. Ever change the O rings?
     
  15. Bluzilla

    Bluzilla a.k.a. "THE DOCTOR"

    After all those years of on and off one of mine also developed a leak back in the mid 90's. It was a couple days before the GS Nationals so on my way into town I stopped at the Bowling Green Caterpillar Sevice center. One of the parts guys was nice enough to let me go through the many drawers of 0-Rings until I found the correct size, (the large main 0-Ring for the cap). When we got back to Milwaukee I ordered up a full 0-Ring replacement kit through Systems 1. I keep a kit in stock now, can't rely on every town I'm in to have a CAT Dealer.:cool:

    Larry
     
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  16. gsx678

    gsx678 Well-Known Member


    Changed them once and it stopped fora a few weeks then started leaking again... Very slight leak.
    Still a great filter..
    It doesn't leak anymore than my oil pan... Lol
     
  17. Bluzilla

    Bluzilla a.k.a. "THE DOCTOR"

    I've been looking at these pictures and I have been trying to figure out just what in tarnation happend here. Is that actually how the filter element was when it was in the shell? If so I would be letting K&N know what you have there. Also it looks like there is a lot of metal particles in both pictures or is that just the debris from cutting it open? I do see a dremel in the background.

    Larry
     
  18. Ken Warner

    Ken Warner Stand-up Philosopher

    I agree, for a filter with metal end caps to have that kind of failure seems extreme to say the least. Cardboard end caps I might understand but not the metal ones.
     
  19. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Yepp thats how it came off when I cut it open. Unscrewed the filter and something was clunking around in there.
    There was a lot of alumn shavings in the filter. I believe they came from the rocker arms lightly rubbing the spring retainers. They all sort of self clearanced themselves. I also lost about 2 inch of dip stick. Thinking it went on the wrong side of the main girdle when I shoved it down into the hole and hit the crank or rod caps. I found about an inch and it was marked "add 1" with one line. the rest from there down was MIA. Thats a good idea about K&N. Think I'll do that today. The engine had racing 50 in it and it was around 50* that morning.I drained it and refilled with 15/40 before the pulls. Still showed around 80 psi @ 5500 RPM
     
  20. Bluzilla

    Bluzilla a.k.a. "THE DOCTOR"

    What was the part number of the K&N filter you used?
     

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