Help

Discussion in 'The "Juice Box"' started by cnordy00, Mar 15, 2020.

  1. cnordy00

    cnordy00 Well-Known Member

    Installing 455 to a th350bop
    What fly wheel do I need 455 or 350?
    There seems to be a gap between the converter and flywheel?
     
  2. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    How much of a gap?
    Fly wheel or flex plate?
     
  3. cnordy00

    cnordy00 Well-Known Member

    Sorry flexplate
    1/16
    Can I shim it?
    Converter is bottoming out in the crank
     
  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    You need a 455 flex plate of course. There should be a gap between the flex plate and converter pads. It should be more than 1/16". Make absolutely sure that your converter is fully installed onto the input shaft. It MAY not be.

    ConverterInst.JPG

    ConverterSeatingMeasurement.JPG
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2020
  5. cnordy00

    cnordy00 Well-Known Member

    Issue now is that because of the gap the case from the tranny won’t meet all the way up
     
  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    That's exactly what I am talking about. The converter is not properly seated in the transmission. There are 2 sets of splines that the converter engages along with the 2 notches in the converter snout that drives the transmission oil pump.
     
  7. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    When you install a converter, you should first line up the 2 notches in the snout with the drive tangs of the pump. Then you need to spin and push on the converter until it drops down 2 more times. When the converter is fully seated, the measurement from the bell housing flange to the converter should be 1 1/8" (THM350) according to the chart I posted in my previous response
     
    johnriv67 likes this.
  8. cnordy00

    cnordy00 Well-Known Member

    Gotcha
    So those two teeth are just spinning in there
    And don’t line up
     
  9. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Possibly, OR, one of the 2 sets of splines haven't engaged. There are the input splines and stator splines and the 2 notches in the converter snout.

    FixedPitchSplines.JPG 95ConverterNeck.JPG
     
  10. cnordy00

    cnordy00 Well-Known Member

    I can remove the splice out of the shaft of the tranny. looks like I broke them off.
     
  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    You damaged the splines?
     
  12. cnordy00

    cnordy00 Well-Known Member

    Looks like it.
    I can pull the two teeth out
     
  13. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    The teeth? You mean the pump drive tangs inboard of the front seal?
     
  14. cnordy00

    cnordy00 Well-Known Member

  15. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    That means you have to pull the front pump and replace the inner gear.

    ConverterPumpTangs.jpg
     
  16. cnordy00

    cnordy00 Well-Known Member

    Yup
    Well it’s my first time and a learning experience
    Thanks for the quick response
     
  17. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Live and learn. Next time, make sure you seat the converter properly. Then use tape or fashion something to keep it fully engaged. It can come out as you are trying to mate the transmission with the engine. If you look in the Chassis Manual, they even have a tool for that. They call it a Converter Holding Strap Tool J-21366.

    ConverterHoldingTool.JPG
     
  18. GS464

    GS464 Hopelessly Addicted

    Lot's of folks have done exactly the same thing. When I first started with serious work on cars, I was fortunate enough to watch a guy in a transmission repair shop break those off and then, after the air cleared, he replaced that inner gear. I paid really close attention to his next attempt to put the converter in properly. Learned a whole lot that day.
     

Share This Page