Help - repair caliper bolt hole threads

Discussion in 'The whoa and the sway.' started by 12lives, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    An easy job, until I tried to torque the upper caliper bolt on my 70 gs. Stripped. These are the threads in the bracket that holds the caliper to the knuckle. Any tricks or do I need to replace the bracket?
     
  2. Daves69

    Daves69 Too many cars too work on

    Should be able to repair with a Heli-coil. You will need to know the thread size and pitch to get the correct kit.
     
  3. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    Thanks - that's what I was thinking. I see Dorman makes an Oversized Brake Caliper Bolt but that seems a bit sketchy. Also, anyone have experience with Time-Sert vs helicoil? Seems like a better solution except the cost.
     
  4. 2001ws6

    2001ws6 last of the v8 interceptors

    Threaded insert. Kinda like a helicoil but better
     
  5. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    Sounds like helicoils are a bad idea too? The Time-Sert threaded insert 7/16th 20 kit is $100. 4X the helicoil kit! The nice thing about the Time-sert is it can be put in backwards so it tightens against the flange, ie it will act like a nut.
     
  6. Pipes5n350

    Pipes5n350 Well-Known Member

    can u tap to next size up on bolt
     
  7. Pipes5n350

    Pipes5n350 Well-Known Member

    can u tap the hole one or to sizes bigger then u have know
     
  8. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    You have to keep in mind that the threads in the flange are only about 1/4" deep making a Helicoil or some other type of threaded insert not have the strength of just the bracket. I myself have used the oversized bolt in the past with NO problems.

    Tom T.
     
  9. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    Pipes - the caliper bolt holds the bushing that the caliper rides on. Can't be bigger unless the bushing ID is bigger.
    Tom - yes, I measured at .366 inch. Time-sert make them as small as .250 and have one that's .370. But with the flange counter sunk into the hole there will not be much left, maybe 2 or 3 threads. Interesting that you had no issues with the oversize bolt. Did you tap it first, or let the bolt cut the threads? Can you remove it later and re use it?

    Interesting reply from Time-sert:
    "Hello
    You know on this application you might be better off using a heilcoil because we don't have a stainless insert that length.
    You would want stainless for Brake caliper. Sorry we could not be of more help on this.
    Best Regards
    Time-Sert"
    Shows they care about customers!
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2019
  10. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    Ha Ha - I found the missing thread - thought this was funny. The bearing came out with the bolt and was stuck to it. Here's why:
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  11. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    Another follow up - Just for fun I bought the oversize bolt and the instructions say:
    One time use - do not reuse
    Only one bolt of the two can be an oversize bolt
    Use as a temporary repair
    Hand tighten only - don't torque to OEM spec

    The oversize bolt is longer that the standard bolt as it has a cotter pin on the outside end. This keeps it in the caliper if it should come loose.

    So...only use when necessary! :rolleyes:
     
  12. Chi-Town67

    Chi-Town67 Gold Level Contributor

    Just an FYI........I had this same problem years ago on a '78 Z/28. I used a heli-coil and had zero issues with it for the 2 years or so that I owned the car.
     
  13. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    Thanks Nick, that was my first thought - since I had to replace the rotor I went ahead and replaced the bracket.
     

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