Hellcat 198MPH on the highway

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by gsfred, Aug 17, 2018.

  1. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    Very interesting, if it was recorded on an old school VHS it would be available for future family members and fun at family gatherings and nobody's the wiser. But putting it on youtube is like sending out invitations to your trial to the whole world. LOL People just don't realize that your private account is public.
     
  2. nekkidhillbilly

    nekkidhillbilly jeffreyrigged youtube channel owner

    wow nc is a lot different in ky then. no way that would be a slam dunk in ky. hell an actual murder on video isn't a slam dunk half the time.
     
  3. Rarebmx

    Rarebmx Active Member

    I would hire a different litigator. Wouldn't "racing" need to be defined as trying to win? Is anything over the speed limit "racing"? There was no other competition to "win".
    I think the video can be great evidence but the state would require a LOT of experts. To verify this video. Where was the evidence that this was actually on a North Carolina highway? I didn't get the license plate number or even color of that car as it passed, let alone did I see the driver. Obviously two different people providing video. Was the video inside the car, the same car that passed the other video?
    I think a good attorney could pick the arrest apart! It is going to cost a lot of money but the state has the original post as evidence.
     
  4. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    I know nothing of the legal rules that apply to this case. What I do know is that it is the certainty of punishment - not the severity of it, is the deterrent. Obviously if this kid is proven guilty there should be a significant punishment - a five-year license suspension, a $5,000 fine, and probation for five years comes to mind, but confiscating the car and serious jail time are only going to create a bitter, barely employable person. The statute of limitations is up, but in a state other then my legal residence now, I once made a very high speed pass through a measured mile. Looking back, it was a stupid thing to do, but when you are 23 you are invulnerable and an expert on everything. If I had been caught and (basically) crucified legally, I would not have had the career that I did, I would not have spent the money that I did (which helped create paychecks for others), and would not have paid the taxes that I did. How would that have made the country better?
     
  5. jay3000

    jay3000 RIP 1-16-21

    Definitely needs to be a lot more evidence than the video.
     
  6. 1973gs

    1973gs Well-Known Member

    It's not his fault. The car should have had a warning label on the dash stating that it is illegal to drive above the posted speed limit. He should be exonerated of all charges and given a trophy for not injuring or killing anybody. Then Dodge should recall all of their cars to add the warning sticker. They should then be forced to make educational commercials stating that it can be dangerous to drive at high speed.:D
     
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  7. STAGE III

    STAGE III Lost Experimental 455-4 Bolt Main Block.

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  8. bignastyGS

    bignastyGS Maggot pilot

    Hell I am 55 and still driving POS's...lol
     
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  9. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    At first read, I thought you said "I still drive 55"o_O
     
  10. sailbrd

    sailbrd Well-Known Member

    glad he did not get a picture when I passed him
     
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  11. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    So Flyn .
    If I pisted myself doing 90 on a 65. I coukd get a ticket? Whose to say its real? And spectators dont have radar guns documenting speed like a hwy patrol man does when giving you a ticket. The most the cops can do is use the video for location referance and try to catch them in tbe act. All the guy has to do is contest and have the aresting officer show up in court. Wats tbe prosecutor gona say. Yes we gave a u tube video and tbe spedometer says 198. But we didnt actually see this or have it on radar or lydar. I have to disagree.
     
  12. toymobile

    toymobile Retired knuckle buster

    I was born and grew up in N.C. and thae have had a few laws that I felt were over the top, if I went to the drag strip as a spectator if you didn't remove your tag the HP would rid through the PARKING LOT write down tag # and notify insurance Co. that you were drag racing and your insurance would be canceled.

    Got a ticket doing 80 in 55, licenses suspended for 6 months, had to turn in my license to the clerk of court or spend 10 days in jail, state then suspended my PRIVILEGE for 6 months. I moved to FL shortly after that in 1964, I only return to visit now.
     
  13. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    https://www.freep.com/story/money/c...-hellcat-ride-video-street-racing/1023615002/

    "An online court records search for Wake County, North Carolina, turned up a William Jefferson and a charge of prearranged speed competition."

    The driver is on tape at a local gas station warming up for the high speed run by doing doughnuts in the parking lot.

    https://g105.iheart.com/featured/bo...-of-speeder-who-hit-198-mph-in-dodge-hellcat/

    "Police arrested Jefferson and charged him with being in a prearranged speed competition, speeding and reckless driving."

    Imagine that, I correctly anticipated the charges filed. If it is not bonded out, I will try to obtain a picture of this Hellcat in the Sheriff's impound lot.
     
  14. bignastyGS

    bignastyGS Maggot pilot

    Funny how many arm chair lawyers on this thread knew what was going to happen then find out they were talking out their asses...lol I won't hire them to defend me ...
     
  15. jay3000

    jay3000 RIP 1-16-21

    So everyone that had a GS or GSX or any other fast car (list goes on) back in the day did exactly the speed limit:confused:. We all ran the **** out of the cars. We just didn't document it, because it wasn't possible at the time.
     
  16. jay3000

    jay3000 RIP 1-16-21

    So, there is no need for a trial or anything. Have you all already decided a sentence?
     
  17. bignastyGS

    bignastyGS Maggot pilot

    Didn't say that at all. I take Jim's word more than some of these other guys word is what I was referring to.. If you want to listen to your grocer or Napa counterman instead of a true lawyer as in Jim's case..Go ahead..I went through things even with a lawyer and got my ass handed to me..Couldn't imagine if I was stupid enough to not have a lawyer and tried getting out of trouble..I see bad juju for that guy..
     
  18. 69a-body

    69a-body Well-Known Member

    I'm still driving ancient junk so I 'll ask.. Is it possible the on board electronics could verify time speed and gps distance from sat nav ? The same with video evidence placing him at scene and mark off distance and time in video as corroborated evidence ?
     
  19. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    More reason to not drive a so called smart car. So a Hell Cat will do 198.mph. I know to just let one of them pass me by now.
    The kid must have seen the cop come to his door and crumbled. If he had any smarts we wouldnt even be hearing about this.
     
  20. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest


    I had almost given up that someone on here would raise this issue.:)

    If it is equipped with GPS, some information is likely still in there. Some cars with just the ECM/EDRs and no GPS can be data searched for some look back once the airbag deploys or otherwise detects a threshold impact. http://www.vceinvestigative.com/content/How-Long-Does-Black-Box-Information-Last-.html. Since 2013 models most cars should have this capability per a 2006 order of the NTSB. Since 2009, Challengers have the EDR. For sure, an EDR could be programmed to be triggered at a certain speed or by extended periods of acceleration.

    And then, there is your personal cell phone information.

    The first court date is September 4, 2018. Generally, defense counsel will ask for a continuance. However, if the Hellcat is still impounded, this would cast some doubt over whether the defense will ask for a continuance.

    In light of the publicity this case has received, there is a serious issue about whether an assistant DA will be allowed to accept any pleas to lesser included offenses, like spontaneous speed competition. I predict the head DA may not allow a plea if she feels good about their evidence on the initial charges.
     
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