Has anyone used this 60% Black Paint?

Discussion in 'Color is everything!' started by Yanchik, Aug 17, 2018.

  1. Yanchik

    Yanchik Well-Known Member

  2. scubasteve455

    scubasteve455 Well-Known Member

    Bodywork and prep work must be perfect. Can’t cut corners with black. And when that bird shits on your hood in the parking lot on a 95 Degree day. It will be a perminant hood ornament. It will bake on
     
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  3. IlliniGSX

    IlliniGSX GSX #401

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  4. Yanchik

    Yanchik Well-Known Member

    Aint that the sad truth :(
     
  5. Yanchik

    Yanchik Well-Known Member

    Thank you for the link! I was considering PPG as well, but the car is going to be painted outside (I have no garage or paint booth access) so there’s a high risk of dust and whatever else that’s floating in the air. So that would be a waste of expensive paint : (

    The parts that can be taken off (fenders, hood, doors, etc) will be painted in a small indoor paint booth. Everything else will be done outside.

    From what I see on your profile picture, the black stripe does look neat!
     
  6. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    I would say 60% is getting damn close to gloss. Certainly not satin.
     
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  7. Yanchik

    Yanchik Well-Known Member

    I agree, it’s already crossing into the gloss territory. The look I’m trying to replicate is BMW Frozen Black. Check it out on google if you get the chance. I think would look stunning on a classic
     
  8. scubasteve455

    scubasteve455 Well-Known Member

    Yanchik if painting outside watch outside watch weather pick best day no humidity. Paint early in morning. Less bugs flying around . Make sure when buying hardener .
    Choose hi temp hardener. Or slow. NOT fast.
     
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  9. scubasteve455

    scubasteve455 Well-Known Member

    If you already had the 60% just go to paint store ask them to add Flatting base. About a Qt. Mix with Gal.
     
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  10. Yanchik

    Yanchik Well-Known Member


    I'm gonna take that into account. Thank you!
    Another question though; Why use a slow hardener? Wouldn't I want it to dry faster to reduce anything sticking to the paint?
     
  11. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    Make an outside tent with plastic rolls.
     
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  12. scubasteve455

    scubasteve455 Well-Known Member

    No Yanchik . You thinking to much . If you use Fast hardener. By the time you get all the way around the car. The paint already dry where you started. Your eyes will see dry edge. (2) nd problem. Even professional painters do this . If you put three coats of paint on a car . And use Fast hardener. It will take you 15-30 minutes to paint entire car. What happens is the last coat of paint you put on . Will form a dry crust on the paint. Because the hot summer air will make the outer coat dry. There for trapping (2) full coats of solvent / paint underneath the last coat. If the last coat is dry were does the solvent go.? It attacks the primer or the old paint underneath. That’s why when you go to a car show most cars have problems with paint job or bodywork. To bo honest if you think hard about this . Slower hardener and slow reducer in reality . Dries faster cause the last coat lets the solvent out.
     
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  13. scubasteve455

    scubasteve455 Well-Known Member

    Trust me this **** happens all the time . I painted a 1996 green Pontiacfirebird (2) weeks ago. Beautiful paint job. Sat a week before buffed and they tried to put door moulding on car. They put on crooked. Had to pull off and realign. The paint peeled of with moulding. When car came back upstairs we found out the primer came off door in sheets. But the car could have left if the paint did not peel . And nobody would have known it was all done wrong. Because someone primed it with fast hardener on a 95* day
     
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  14. scubasteve455

    scubasteve455 Well-Known Member

    Every paint company’s Fast Hardener tempature range is 45* - 60 It’s August average temp is 75-85* even if you paint car in the morning . By 11:00 surface tempature on black car is way past warm. Probably Hot. Remember painting a flat or eggshell sheen can not be rubbed with a buffer
     
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  15. scubasteve455

    scubasteve455 Well-Known Member

    I would hang a chain on rear axle to the ground. Stop static charge when going back and forth with your arms. I use a chain on corvettes when I paint them. Remember cars sit on rubber tires
     
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  16. Yanchik

    Yanchik Well-Known Member


    You just dropped some serious knowledge on this thread. Thank you!!
     
  17. scubasteve455

    scubasteve455 Well-Known Member

    Now if I were painting Single Stage . On the last coat I would mix 50% mixed paint to 50% mixed clear with Flatting base. That’s what I did to my Blacked out hood on my car
     
  18. scubasteve455

    scubasteve455 Well-Known Member

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