harmonic balancer ?

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by pro tour gsx, May 8, 2020.

  1. pro tour gsx

    pro tour gsx pro tour gsx

    hello friends , I have a 470 ci buick built a while ago . I suspect a leak coming from front cover seal . Upon inspection I have noticed a small groove in the the balancer were it meets the seal , stock buick balancer , ta performance timing cover . Can I change to a new balancer without screwing with engine balance ?
     
  2. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

  3. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    $8 for Chevy at Summit; $35 for Buick at BOP.

    If a guy could find the Fel-Pro or Timkin part number, I bet you could source them much less expensively.
     
  4. Matt Knutson

    Matt Knutson Well-Known Member

    TIMKEN KWK99176
     
  5. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

  6. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    Didnt know the chevy was the same diameter.......never needed one for our motors b4, just quickly looked it up cause I knew someone had to make it
     
  7. john.schaefer77

    john.schaefer77 Well-Known Member

    National 99200
     
  8. 1973gs

    1973gs Well-Known Member

    I would replace the balancer and the seal. If the balancer is 40-50 years old, it should be replaced anyway.
     
  9. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    A good Machine Shop can match balance a new balancer to your original.
     
  10. Matt Knutson

    Matt Knutson Well-Known Member

    I should think that if you send your balancer to a rebuild shop that the balace value would remain the same. If you have mallory weights pressed in the holes of the balancer you may want to remove them before sending off the unit. Make sure you mark where they go and re-install when you get it back.

    http://www.hbrepair.com/
     
  11. pro tour gsx

    pro tour gsx pro tour gsx

    Thanks for the advice , I guess the big question is can I buy an aftermarket or stock replacement damper from ta without having issues with balance of engine. My stock balancer has no added weight to it . Are these motors internal or external balance ? I don't mind sleeving or rebuilding but if I can just buy new and call it a day I will .
     
  12. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    Buick engines are external balance, done the crappy way--by custom-balancing the external parts. The proper way would be to specify a standardized offset weight for the damper and/or flywheel/flexplate, (preferably "zero", but any figure within reason would work for Grandma and Grandpa) then take whatever additional weight is needed off the crankshaft.

    Buick cost cutting, just like the horrible center-of-mass balancing of the connecting rods.
     
  13. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I don't remember if JW built your 470 originally or not. If he did, he might have the balance specification for the balance and flex plate. Call him.
     

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