Good sites to Download music from?

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Stg1Regal, Mar 8, 2003.

  1. Stg1Regal

    Stg1Regal Yep Traction Issues!:)

    :confused:

    Anybody know of any good sites to down load music from?

    Just got my new computer ( yes...I'm Back!!!!!), and I'm playing around with my new CD burner....

    uhhhhh getting hooked:puzzled:

    Thanks
     
  2. G-Body DAVE

    G-Body DAVE Well-Known Member

  3. BuickStreet

    BuickStreet Well-Known Member

    I hope that no musicians are reading this post.
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2003
  4. tlivingd

    tlivingd BIG BLOCK, THE ANTI PRIUS

    good one

    The program Kazaa lite is a good one.

    www.kazaalite.com

    there are about 4 popups on the site but fairly friendly (close w/o opening more) and the program has less popups than normal kazaa

    Nate
     
  5. brblx

    brblx clueless

    why? i've never heard of a real musician/band not liking P2P programs or the internet in general. it's the best exposure in the world for someone who's not a corporate scarecrow living in a mansion...and hence can't get on the radio.

    whenever i like a band enough to continually listen to their music or download the entire cd, i buy it. i also attend their shows, buy their merch, and usually turn on a few of my friends to them, giving them another few record sales.

    but i'm a thief, yeah.:rolleyes:
     
  6. gotbuick

    gotbuick What, me worry?

    Re: good one


    Yeah this is the site I like!!!:TU:
     
  7. Mike Atwood

    Mike Atwood The Green Machine

    If you like to listen to free music, give Acid Planet a try! It's all free and alot of it is very good. They have remix contests with major artist donating the source for a track to remix. Just about any style you can think of too!!

    http://www.acidplanet.com is the place.

    If you want to check out some of my stuff please feel free to grab what you want from there or my home page in Windows Media or MP3 formats. http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?AID=96904&T=3452

    Mike
     
  8. Buick_350X

    Buick_350X Guest

  9. BuickStreet

    BuickStreet Well-Known Member

    That's great but you are in the rare minority.

    I expect I'm going to make several enemies here but if a band wants to give music away they would do it via their website where they can count the downloads and make smart marketing decisions. Free for all "eat the rich" types of programs do no one any favours but those who like the music enough to 'take' it off the internet but don't like the musicians enough to pay for it.

    The only thing that bands have to sell is their music. If you take away their ability to sell music they miss out on income they deserve. Sure, the record and marketing companies take their cut and it can be argued that they take too much but the artists are the ones to make that decision and they are usually thankful for the massive distribution that these companies can offer.

    This discussion can (and I expect will) quickly get out of control but copying music from a peer to peer file sharing program is stealing no matter how you want to justify it to yourself and the corporate scarecrow argument is as valid as the "it's ok to steal from rich people" argument. Theft is theft. Just because there is next to no chance that you will get caught doesn't make it less of a crime.

    Not sure what you mean by 'real musician'. And if you've never heard of bands complaining about about people stealing their music I can say that I definately have. Many times. Many of my friends are musicians and we have this conversation all the time. They all agree that illegal (read the back cover of a CD) file sharing is obviously theft.
     
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2003
  10. brblx

    brblx clueless

    you completely missed my point.

    i DON'T download music from bands that have money, becuase most of the time, i don't listen to them at all. i get music from the lesser-known ones...most of the music i listen to is by people signed to fairly major labels, but not promoted in the slightest. how else will i hear it if not for the internet? i can't just buy every CD that is recommended to me or that i think might be good. i download it, give it a listen, and if i like it, i go out and by the CD...or special order it, i should say. i mean heck, why would a store stock a CD they might sell one a month of when they can devote another row to eminem or nsync? but anyway, me buying that record is a sale gained, and if i didn't purchase it, would it be a sale lost? i shouldn't be getting music on the net, anyway, right?

    and what about cd's you can't even buy anywhere? when i get a band's CD at a local show, i usually rip it, share it when i'm on P2P programs, copy it for/send it to friends...that's for the sake of the artist who would otherwise not be recognized becuase virgin, BMG, universal, ect couldn't care less about their album or EP they put their own time, talent, and money into creating.

    the internet's about connectivity. if someone wants to use that to download britney spears' latest cd, that's the problem of the artist and the record company, not of the program or website that exists for other, completely valid reasons.
     
  11. tlivingd

    tlivingd BIG BLOCK, THE ANTI PRIUS

    tour

    Bands have the opertunity to make money other ways.

    I listen to primarily electronic music and the artists who create this music generally don't make their money by selling records they DJ.

    the same will soon be the same for music artists. they will make the majority of their money from touring. this will also get rid of many of the "studio bands" that we keep seeing (any of the boy bands, and teenybop bands)

    A big part is the large conglomerate music industries have HUGE pockets. and want to spoon feed us music and have contracts with bands they control not a band looking for a label and be known and want things there way.

    A band I sorta recently discovered is on a pretty small label but when FOX put them on a soundtrack (daredevel) recently they have started to explode in popularity. (the band is Evanescence) I shortly later saw them live after hearing them played on the radio and OH MY GOD.... off the hook great performers.
    (hope you don't compare them to the Leno performance they had on the 6th. they sucked there)
    this group is better live than on there CD. the concert price 11 bucks after all fees. The lead singer also asked how the crowd knew all the words to the songs if the album hadent come out yet. (the record label pre-released the songs with errors in them on the major P2P networks thats how we learned most of them. the band themself also said to download there previous CD instead of paying 500 bucks for a copy on E-bay (yea they are going for that.)

    and I also bought their new album the day it went out.

    anyways... the music industry is changing and the RIAA is trying everything in there power to stop it and I hope they fail. the music industry says they sell less records and they claim its because of the internet. can you seriously tell me that there is really any good new music coming out from the large record labels? nope not that I can see. the last 5 other cd's ive bought recently are all from small labels not included with the RIAA's counting schemes.

    there are actually quite a few artists who support P2P these primairly are the ones who arn't all about the money but are more into producing the music.

    alright enough ranting
    Nate


    added: preach on brother Dave
     
  12. BuickStreet

    BuickStreet Well-Known Member

    David, you seem to have the right attitude regarding what you share and what you buy and I don't really have a problem with that but most of the people I have met who use these programs say "Why buy it when I can download it for free? Bands are rich - I am not, so I'll just take it, I'll never get caught anyway." these are the attitudes I have a problem with.

    I also agree that it's probably ok to download music that is no longer for sale.
     
  13. brblx

    brblx clueless

    i'm not trying to start an argument. (well...not purposely, anyway. i guess you could say i have quite the argumentative nature.:gt: )

    i kind of just took offense at your brief first post, becuase many people like to generalize the massive base of P2P programs as all being just bums. i honestly don't know how many people there are out there who have only the intent of getting free cd's..quite frankly, it doesn't even matter to me in most cases. sure, i respect a lot of popular artists, but i'm not going to fight a war that's mostly for a) corporately-formed bands/groups and b) millionares who can't even form a coherent sentence. as far as the monetary signifigance of the 'net to lesser-knowns, all you can do is argue. if someone doesn't want their music out there, that's their right, but i feel it will only do good things for them.

    and btw, nate, i was hoping when you mentioned the daredevil soundtrack that you were going to talk about finger eleven...great band, two cd's out and another on the way if you havn't checked them out yet.
     
  14. YellowLark

    YellowLark Well-Known Member

    After over 50 years of buying shellac records, 45's, LP',s stereo, qudraphonic, tape reels, 8-tracks, cassettes, CD's, and seeing countless movies, shows, and concerts, I feel that I have already paid full price to "own" the contents of any music I download.

    If I bought a Frank Sinatra LP in 1964 for $4.59, why should I pay $16 for a CD today of the exact music? While my orginal 1964 record may be long gone, I feel that I have the right to have a current copy of the same recording without paying the holding company for another copy.

    Kids downloading music from artists they never paid a cent to hear in any format is another issue, but for me, and many boomers, getting a Beatles or Stones soundtrack is done with a clear conscience.
     
  15. BuickStreet

    BuickStreet Well-Known Member

    I've bought a heap of gas in my time too. Doesn't give me the right to drive off without paying for it. Bought a heap of food, furniture and other commodoties too. Does that give me the right to walk out of a store without paying? Like I said before, if your Sinatra album (which you where willing to pay for the first time around) is broken and you can't find another one I suppose it might be 'ok' to grab another copy but just because it's worn out doesn't give you (or me) the right to steal another one. Just because no one can see you take it doesn't make it right, does it? If you take something that doesn't belong to you (and music is a commodity just like anything else) how is that different from common theft?
     
  16. Buick_350X

    Buick_350X Guest

    I don't know. If you could take a 68 GS and run it through a computer and make two of them, I would. And if you could put a 68 online for me too download my own, I would.
     
  17. white72gs455

    white72gs455 Going Fast With Class!!!

    MUSIC TO MY EARS!!!!!!

    The sound of my tires hooking as I blast off a street light from next to a hoopdee rattling and moaning from rap crap. and the sound of that 455 roaring at 5000 rpm an leaving that noise behind!:moonu:
     
  18. YellowLark

    YellowLark Well-Known Member

    BuickStreet,

    The way I see it, I paid their full asking price to own a recording of that performance. Period.

    If I have subsequent "free" copies of that same performance, that is my right. This is the same legal reasoning that permits backup copies of expensive software - as long as you only use one copy at a time for your own use - it's OK.
     
  19. Smartin

    Smartin Guest

    There are certain discussions that I try to steer away from: Religion, Politics, and Internet Piracy.

    I have my viewpoints just like everyone else does. Why does there have to be a right and wrong? I understand that this is a pressing issue, but I don't see anyone really enforcing a stop to music downloads. Yeah, Napster was basically shut down, but Kazaa is bigger than napster ever was. Kazaa is different in that it runs direct connections from supplier to downloader. Napster worked off of big servers (might be wrong about that)...but this is why Kazaa is so hard to stop illegal music and other file downloads. I use Kazaa for more than music. There are lots of programs and files that I can find nowhere else. It's like using this buick board...a wealth of connections that makes access to hard-to-find parts (or files) easier. ahhh the internet.

    I was getting flustered jsut reading this thread...I hate starting cat fights, but I think one is already in the making. We don't want that. Truth is, there are plenty of music download sites that offer LEGAL downloads, but the downside is the cost.

    I don't even know what to say without pissing someone off about this. So I'll go to bed and stop caring.:rolleyes: :boring:
     
  20. BuickStreet

    BuickStreet Well-Known Member

    Ok, look, I'm not completely unreasonable about this and when you put it that way I suppose you might have a point. Not sure how the judge would view it but I'm ok with that and also in getting recordings that are not available anywhere else. I had to draw the line when a nephew of mine was downloading entire recordings (including the sleeve artwork) and was selling them to his school friends for 10 bucks a pop. That was just plain wrong and I made sure that he knew it.

    There is also probably a good case for downloading a song or two to get a 'taste' of an album to see if it's worth buying or not and if you like it then going to the shop and buying the CD. That way you're not left with an album that you don't like very much and the Band gets credit on the charts and the whole thing works harmoniously.

    I like the idea of buying a song for a dollar like the way that Liquid player is selling them. Or, having small samples of the songs (maybe 1 minute of music) available for download. I know I have probably made a few enemies with my views on this subject but I used to play in a band myself and have actually heard good local musicians say that there was no point in going to all the effort and expense of releasing an album when as soon as it becomes remotely popular everyone will just download it off the net anyway.

    They still play live and enjoy it but there's not much money in playing live without a large audience and you can't get a large audience with good promotion (airplay). You can't get good airplay without being on the charts. It's all intertwined. That was when I really starting to think about the right and wrong of all this. I also realise that not everything that is illegal is necessarily wrong.
     

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