Gears to go with

Discussion in 'Got gears?' started by hgiljr, Sep 9, 2019.

  1. hgiljr

    hgiljr Well-Known Member

    Hello everyone. My 67 GS has a 12 bolt rear with 4:10 gears with a TA cover. This is how it came when I bought it. I am looking to change the gears now that I am in the process of installing freshly rebuilt 455 engine. It has a 400 tranny. My main goal is cruising around town and at times get on the highway. Which gears should I go with? Thanks for info
     
  2. telriv

    telriv Well-Known Member

    Get a 200R4 trans. or a Gear Venders Over Drive & have the best of both worlds. With a Gear Venders that 22% reduction would bring the 4.10's down to a manageable 3.2 ratio.
     
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  3. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    3.55 is good comprise
     
  4. Nailhead

    Nailhead Gold Level Contributor

    You're going to get a lot of different opinions on this topic!

    I like switch-pitch 400's and would keep the tranny if that's what it is. For cruising and highway 3.23 or 3.08 is good. You would have to change the carrier, or change it out drum to drum if you go this way.
     
  5. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    What ^^^^ he said, use the $$$ to get a gear vendors and keep the gear you already have! The G/V will give you O/D in every gear making it a 6 speed if you want.
     
  6. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    I think before you even think about buying ANY parts...You need to know what carrier series you have 4.10 normally rides on a 4 series carrier which 3.73 is as low as you can go and thery are thin machined gear for this which will be a bid more than the 3 series gear set.
    If you have a 3 series carrier with a thick 4.10 ...you are all set to go as low as 3.07 ring and pinion.
    Now you could have a 2 series carrier with a spacer and a thick 4.10 gear set also...NOT likely B UT it is a possibility. :)

    What cam are you putting in the 455? If you pick too big as cam duration you will end up with a sluggish low end 0 -3000 rpm
    270 duration will make for a monster huge torque output. DO not be fooled by HP is what sells parts but TORQUE is what everyone wants... Stock motors put otu 500ft lbs of torque at 2800 RPM and only 390 HP which is 0ok as I stated you will have 3 gears in the trans to get the job done and you can use 3.31 or 3.42 and have great response still hit the highway with reasonable rpm etc.

    My opinion and as I always say...It is your car and you will be the final say on everything. :)
     
  7. hgiljr

    hgiljr Well-Known Member

    I reused a lot of the high performance parts that were in my 400 engine when I bought it including the 430 heads. The cam is the comp cam mutha thumper cam. I will find out what carrier series is in there once I take the car into shop to get the engine installed.
     
  8. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    My vote is also the GV. A touch more money, but best of both worlds. You dont get to have and eat your cake too often. Here is a chance too
     
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  9. hgiljr

    hgiljr Well-Known Member

    Just looked up the GV. I can’t spend now $2k plus. I just spent thousands on the engine.
     
  10. telriv

    telriv Well-Known Member

    Well, just wait & save it up instead of doing it ALL at once. Like said, "the best of both worlds".
     
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  11. hgiljr

    hgiljr Well-Known Member

    And me thinking it would be a simple gear downgrade. Gotta weigh my options as GV is a bit steep. I understand best of both worlds but was looking for just gear change now.
     
  12. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    Are you able to do the fear swap yourself???? If so gears, carrier, bearings, gaskets, seals, fluid, new part . 750ish??? Guessing????? Labor. 350ish, also guessing???? So in the area of 1000-1200ish. But dropping from a 4.10 to mid 3 gear is a huge drop and will slow the car down by close to half a second on more in the 1/4

    What size tire are you running, with that info you can pretty much closely calculate your rpm at a certain speed
     
  13. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Oh no, not another comp thumpr cam. Summit, jegs, etc should pull that atrocity out of their catalog. All that cam is good for is tricking the buyer into having a slow car

    Luckily, you have the mutha thumpr, which is slightly less bad
     
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  14. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut Staff Member

    Just toss on some 30X12.5-15 tires and keep your gear the same. Take it easy on the highway and it would be fine.
     
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  15. hgiljr

    hgiljr Well-Known Member

    I would not be able to do the swap myself. Currently running 15inch tires all around.
     
  16. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    No how tall or tire size
     
  17. hgiljr

    hgiljr Well-Known Member

    225/70/15
     
  18. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    So about 27.5" tall

    So 65 should be about 3300 ish rpm now


    With GV I would guess closer to 2500ish

    3.55 should 2900ish

    3.08 would 2500ish

    How cool is GV, have the performance of a race gear set with the fuel economy of 3.08
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2019
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  19. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

    That's a big cam, it'll like the 4.11 gears. Drop to a 3.42 or less and it'll feel doggy around town. 4.11's are fun around town but on the highway you're limited to around 60 mph unless you put very tall tires on the rear.

    A better combo would be a milder cam with low 3 series gears.... you'll have more low end torque that will perform better around town and on the highway.
     
  20. hgiljr

    hgiljr Well-Known Member

    With everything that has been shared, I will stay with the 4:10 gears and focus on putting engine back and enjoying the car. Will reconsider later on in the future. Thanks for all info.
     

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