Firewall markings

Discussion in 'Chassis restoration' started by CJay, Apr 7, 2020.

  1. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    I want to try and recreate the factory markings on my firewall. What is the right tire crayon that is used for this? The old Markal type? Yellow or white?

    I know the paint code should be by the voltage regulator or thereabouts. My car is Aquamist with a black top. Should it read "34-B" ? And under the power booster I believe it should read "PC" for power drums with a clutch?
     
  2. sriley531

    sriley531 Excommunicado

    My Skylark still had original fender and firewall markings prior to the redo. They were yellow. But I don't know if it matters what plant or year or anything.
     
  3. OHC JOE

    OHC JOE Mullet Mafia since 2020

    IMG_20180729_160720082.jpg Here is what I had on my car while redoing the engine compartment IMG_20180729_160713182.jpg IMG_20180729_160707304.jpg IMG_20180729_161114400.jpg
     
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  4. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

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  5. Golden Oldie 65

    Golden Oldie 65 Well-Known Member

    9 times out of 10 I find the crayon markings on the firewall under the black paint rather than on top of it, but a while back I restored a `70 GSX Stage 1, 4 speed car that had D/C to the right of the brake booster (toward the passenger side) on top of the black paint. It was in yellow marker and my research at the time found it to mean disc brakes/clutch.
     
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  6. copperheadgs1

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    That’s because someone painted over it!
     
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  7. copperheadgs1

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    The brake marks are bright yellow. The paint codes appear to be different crayon. Some look dull yellow and some white. They were done in a different place I bet.
    Body paint info would have been done by Fisher before body paint. The D and C was probably done by a Buick worker. Check out these a member found cleaning up his car. Looks white. My guess someone tried to rub them off.
     
  8. copperheadgs1

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  9. copperheadgs1

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    I like to show this photo from a 1970 magazine of a 70 Stage-1 4 speed. Shows M for manual and C for clutch. 01796957-BB8F-486C-ACBD-A710D3246010.jpeg
     
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  10. copperheadgs1

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    Jason, you are welcome to borrow my crayons if you like. I used on my GSX. Just mail them back when done.
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  11. copperheadgs1

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    I have been lucky enough to see many original cars from Flint and Framingham plants from friends and junkyards. I never see any marks on Framingham cars. Flint cars if Disc brakes and Auto would have just a D. If Disc and Clutch it would be DC. If Manual brakes then M. If Manual and Clutch MC. Most Buick’s had Power Drum brakes but I have never seen a P? I’m not saying it doesn’t exist but there are a ton of Skylarks out there that were power drums.
     
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  12. Brett Slater

    Brett Slater Super Moderator Staff Member

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  13. Brett Slater

    Brett Slater Super Moderator Staff Member

    I couldn't make out any of the paint code until I took the voltage regulator off. See the picture above Dave posted.

    However, behind my master cylinder, there are remnants of the C. Someone painted over the M.

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  14. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Here is the partial C for clutch. Part of it and M probably got wiped off.

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  15. Brett Slater

    Brett Slater Super Moderator Staff Member

    And a close up of the MC behind the master cylinder.

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  16. Brett Slater

    Brett Slater Super Moderator Staff Member

    Actually, after looking again, I think I see the top of the M.

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  17. copperheadgs1

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    Here is another 70 magazine test car. It’s an early 70 Stage-1 Auto that was given the GSX treatment and released to the press. The D is clearly visible.
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  18. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Another view of the same car
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  19. BUQUICK

    BUQUICK I'm your huckleberry.

    If anyone does need paint sticks don't buy them from Quanta for $5.50/ea because they are just buying the Markal paint sticks for $1 and putting their label on it. You can buy them for $1.89 each plus shipping. A Google search will probably show other sites that have them even cheaper.

    https://shop.bombingscience.com/mar...Fom5-RqhDKPyTsrP_a_lBk62NkQBk-whoCfOYQAvD_BwE
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  20. copperheadgs1

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    Here is a 70 GS350 magazine article. Car has power drums and no brake marks. It’s impossible to tell what plant it came from but it’s an early press car which were almost always Flint cars.
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