Does T/A, or somebody, sell BBB manifold end seals?

Hi folks,

Ordered T/A's thinnest composition intake gaskets. I use the AMP-style valley pan. I forget to ask T/A, and now I need, new front/rear intake seals. Didn't see them in the T/A catalog?

Thanks in advance!

Best,

Ranger
Aiken, SC

 

alot of time the end seals are not the correct thickness, they are easy to cut.

with those thinner .030 intake gaskets it is possable to actually suck the gaskets in. so dont forget a skin coat to help secure then in place

 

RTV as Larry suggested especially with the AMP valley pan. I have a large collection of new end seals in a box. I use a thin bead under the valley pan ends and then place some weight on it overnight to let it setup completely. Then put the intake on.

 

Thanks, guys,

But it's not that easy. I am running BullDog heads, so there is already a very large space between the manifold and block. Gessler, who ported the heads, made me some metal plates to glue to the front/back of the block, but there is still un uncomfortably large gap--too big, I fear, to use sealer. I'm afraid it would be sucked in. Guess I'll have to make some seals?

Best,

Ranger
Aiken, SC

 

The Bulldogs came with 2 aluminum spacers 1/2 x 1/2 x 8 3/8 inch, with one end drill to fit over intake dowels & you used RTV on block & intake sides.
If you cut heads or block you had to make shorter spacers.

 

I had my 2nd-generation/final generation sent directly from Jim Burek to Gessler, Maybe 1/2" tall spacers were included. If so, Greg didn't notice and threw them away.

He made, and charged me for, making spacers that were indeed 1/2" wide, but only 1/4" tall. They look very professional-built, along w/ the aforementioned hole for the dowel pin.

This is my current problem. I don't want to use silicon to fill up more than 1/4" of space. I would use the "Right Stuff," of course.

Well, maybe I should get some new 1/2" thick spacers made? If not, I guess I will just buy s stock valley-pan gasket and just use the end seals from that, throwing the valley pan away?

Thanks, again.

Best,

Ranger
Aiken, SC

 

my poston oil pan needs me to run 3 very thick beads on top of each other, had the pan for 15+ years now only ever had it leak there once and it wasn't much

 

Thanks, but "pill pan" is something I don't understand, though I get the concept of separate beads. Thanks.

Best,

Ranger
Aiken, SC

 

"Poston oilpan" is what Ben is referring to

 

Thanks, Hugger!

Good to see you and visit w/ you, recently! Thanks for the tour!

Good to see your dad, as well! Looks the same as when I saw him at the Nationals in 2012!

Best,

Ranger
Aiken, SC

 

yes corrected my smart phone that continues to think it knows more than me, and I know what I was trying to say and have a bad habit of not prof reading.


my point was you can fill a pretty large gap with silicon/right stuff and not worry about it leaking or being sucked in
if it will hold on the oil pan, the intake should be no issues.

I think the eldelbrock intake gaskets come with them and are not that pricey, cheaper than a valley pan

thanks Ethan for knowing what I was trying to say

 

I have used rtv to fill as much as 3/8” gap before. I have to do it a little slower,and let it stiffen up some,then add a second pass. It sound like it would be a big ugly gobbled mess,but it’s not. One thing I don’t like is leaks,and none of my stuff leaks anywhere.

 

Maybe I missed something with the "Bulldog heads" but how do they cause a stock type intake to sit so much higher than a factory head or the TA's? If it uses a factory style intake then it should have a factory sized gap which is easily filled with RTV. Now if somehow you are saying Bulldog block that is another story.

Update: Just did a search and read up about the Bulldog heads in some very old posts(Ranger is in on one)and how they apparently have raised ports but also the metal built into the heads to lift a factory style intake in to correct alignment, but at a higher location.

 

You can also use the Ford style grey gasket maker in a tube. Very strong and stays where you put it.
You could also get some thick gasket material and cut shims to glue on top of your spacers.

 

Exactly! According to not just a few folks "in-the-know," it has the best intake port of any head on the market. It flows pretty well out-of-the-box, but cleans up to some great flow numbers w/ minimal work. Sadly, the same cannot be said of the poor exhaust port!

Thanks, again!

Best,

Ranger
Aiken, SC

 

Any silacone black will do. Unless u have a vac pump on ur crankcsse it will never suck in. Just let it sit overnite. It will never ozze out or squish out unless u over apply it.

 

You could take some time and fabricate something like this to take up the space. You might use some sort of plastic that can be bought at rubber and gasket places.

 

Mike,

Thanks for taking the time to give your always-valuable input. That's a nice-looking piece you made! Now I just have to find a local "rubber and gasket" place! LOL!

Best,

Ranger
Aiken, SC

 

I have plenty nos rubber manifold end gaskets. PM me with needs.