Correct Vinyl top install

Discussion in 'Interior City' started by dl7265, Jul 28, 2014.

  1. dl7265

    dl7265 No car then Mopar

    I have see a lot of cars, not just Buicks A body's that has their vinyl top installed Incorrectly, many of those are Concours cars as well. So , I thought I would point out a correct ( factory) install on a Original 1 owner ( still) 1970 Stage 1 hardtop.

    You will notice the back seam follows the leaded line from the quarter panel to body . Many of the after market installs are offset and do not line up correctly. I hope this helps when you are replacing your top. [​IMG]

    Thanks,
    DL
     
  2. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    DL, But are the new tops made to allow you to do that? Also is the seam on the windshield pillar folded up or down. I believe originals were up but they are not made this way anymore.
     
  3. dl7265

    dl7265 No car then Mopar

    Dave, I have not compiled a list of vendors as of yet. I understand Legendary is correct. I will be ordering from them when the time comes. They also make the correct cross hatch well liner for convertibles. Okay, not exact to original , but close as you can get. I'll have to check and see If i have a pillar post photo of this car.


    DL
     
  4. LouV

    LouV Silver Level contributor

    This is an interesting topic. However, does this information also apply to a halo top? The moldings on the roof about line up with the qtr panel seam so I think a seam on the vinyl top would look funny there. I haven't seen any real good close pictures but the ones I have kinda look like the lower seam would line up with the roof seam.

    What say you guys?
    Thanks,
    Lou
     
  5. 72newbiebuick

    72newbiebuick Gold Level Contributor

    I second what You said, Lou! :)

    Mark
     
  6. 72newbiebuick

    72newbiebuick Gold Level Contributor

    Lou is referring to my top and pics, I believe. I looked in my chassis manual and while there are not specifics in the book pertaining to seam placement or measurements, it does show a rendering of the seams inboard of the body seam. My seams are just inboard of the quarter panel seam. If I look back to front using the trunk filler seam as a guide, it runs right up in line (or nearly) with the halo top moldings, which to me the seams would look weird had they followed that line. Have a look - my top was from Year One and before I knew about such places as Legendary, etc.

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  7. George D.

    George D. Platinum Level Contributor

    Dave- my top guy (who is now retired) has been performing auto upholstery for ~ 45 or so years.. (he installed my top in 2 hours!!!). He placed the windshield seam folded UP- as 'all of the GTO's, Chevelle's and those types of cars had them up'.... As I questioned why it was up and not down.. HTH.
     
  8. dl7265

    dl7265 No car then Mopar

    Was your original top still on when you replaced it ? Halo couldn't say, fairly rare top. Have documented several Original tops from different plants for 1970 and they are All as my photo In post #1
    DL
     
  9. dl7265

    dl7265 No car then Mopar

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    Another original unrestored car.

    DL
     
  10. 72newbiebuick

    72newbiebuick Gold Level Contributor

    Unfortunately, no the original top wasn't on the car when I got it - they did some adhoc repairs around the window and slapped a black top on. I looked harder at the alignment of the halo top moldings and the body seam, and if the top seam was aligned to the body seam they would be within an inch or so of the top moldings. I now want to call Legendary - for this question and also because I am not completely pleased with my current top install.

    Mark
     
  11. Daves69

    Daves69 Too many cars too work on

    The rear top seam is a bolt in piece that is wrapped in vinyl.
     
  12. 72newbiebuick

    72newbiebuick Gold Level Contributor



    Say what????? I don't understand and there is nothing my manual about it.

    Mark
     
  13. Daves69

    Daves69 Too many cars too work on

    I have done a couple of Flint built cars with original tops and the seam was covered with a flat plate wrapped in vinyl. There was a stud welded to the plate to hold it in place.
     
  14. 72newbiebuick

    72newbiebuick Gold Level Contributor

    Ok, thanks. Well I know mine didn't have that (Freemont car to add) as I removed the top and there was no hole for that underneath.

    I called Lengendary and will call "Ron" tomorrow to see what he knows..... told he is the man to talk to there? Worst case I leave my top alone with misaligned seams.......not concourse anyway!

    Mark
     
  15. 72newbiebuick

    72newbiebuick Gold Level Contributor

    So I have not connected with Lengendary yet (the tech they recommended I get with) but I found a pic of a halo top out in WWW land, and it seems top seam is in the same place as mine but, the seam under the window is with the body seam - meaning they are not in line with one another and I guess made independently of one another.

    Still want to talk to this guy at Lengendary but now this is making sense, I suppose. Assuming this to be the correct situation, now I have to ponder pulling this 3 year old top off and replacing.

    Mark 00r0r_h6VKzU1r2KP_600x450.jpg
     
  16. dl7265

    dl7265 No car then Mopar

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    Yet another example of an original top

    DL
     
  17. 72newbiebuick

    72newbiebuick Gold Level Contributor

    Yeah I got wth the tech at Legendary and confirmed what you guys are showing. My Year 1 top was not exact. Will see how long it lasts and the. Get the right one n

    Mark
     
  18. GS44667

    GS44667 Worlds First Stage1 Conv

    1970 from Fremont.
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  19. MARTIN FARMER

    MARTIN FARMER Well-Known Member

    DL & DAVE69 do you know a good replacement for the plate & stud for the rear seams. My halo FLINT stud hole is 3/4" inward from weld seam.
     
  20. dl7265

    dl7265 No car then Mopar

    Update : I measured my new Legendary vinyl top . The rear valence appears to have the correct width as original .
    Nice to have a repo part correctly made for a change . Kuddos to Legendary Auto Interiors .

    DL


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