One of my best ones, yet!:bglasses: As close to original as it gets!:bglasses: It's going to be Awesome in a Convertible!:TU:
You are wise, Jamie!:TU::grin: Actually, these dash speakers, along with a pair of kick panel speakers would definitely make a noticeable difference in any car!:Smarty: As a Buick owner, and music lover, I always recommend to most Buick owners, that the Original dash speaker should be the FIRST thing to replace, as a Dual (Stereo) dash speaker, to notice a difference in sound quality from your radio! Then, by adding a pair of 6x9s in the Rear Deck, even just those 4 speakers is a Definite improvement! I really need to start my own "informational website" with all of the things I could teach to car owners. Now you've given me an idea!:beer Do you know anything about website design, Jamie?:laugh: To answer your question, I only use 4" door speakers, as they fit the best in the original dash speaker frame, to still allow for A/C duct clearance, etc. as they're installed under the dash.:bglasses: I don't know if front dash speakers are different in the '60s cars, as I only do '70-'72s.o No: I build each one from scratch, since everyone has different choices of their favorite speaker brands (Sony, Pioneer, JBL, etc.), and all speakers have different mounting tabs. Although most are similar, they are not all the same! So, technically, I'm building unique speakers, for each individual car. I've almost got it down to a production level, and I'm getting closer to perfecting them, as I've made my own templates, and jigs, to outline, measure, cut, bend, drill, and install the speakers, in a dashboard that I cut out of a parts car, to test fit for quality.:bglasses: I've also been designing and building Steel radio bezels, since the original plastic bezels are almost obsolete, now, from too many guys hacking them up to use to install modern style radios! :shock::bglasses:
no web design,i still type with two fingers :laugh: so i replaced my dash speaker YEARS ago w/radiod shack pos.ready for something better.what have you done for rear speakers in a convert?
guys: if u replace your underdash speaker & plan on retaining the original gm vintage radio, the old speaker was 10 ohms. 8 ohms will work, but nothing less.
I hate you guys.... my Riv has a far more complicated design to get the front speakers in. It took me about 2hrs of test fitting and filing and fitting again to get the dual 4" speaker plate I made to finally slip over the 4 studs and I'm using Kicker 4"s that only have 2 mounting tabs, on my last 65 I had to dremel half of the ears off of the Infinities I was using to get them to fit.
The speaker you see pictured will be used in a Convertible, with an added pair of Kick Panel speakers, for a 4 Speaker setup. I think that will be more than sufficient enough in a Convertible, to just be able to hear the music loud enough, over the Wind Noise! Although I have a '70 Skylark Convertible, I don't find it necessary to use anything other than just the Dual Dash speaker, to be Loud and Clear enough! Just by installing the Dual Dash speaker, whether it's Hardtop or Convertible, it improves the sound quality because the windshield acts as an amplifier, as the sound is directed from the speakers in the dash, to the glass, and then towards the back of the car. Installing REAR Speakers in a Convertible, in my opinion, is a waste of time and money, for sound that you're not going to hear, anyway, because of the Wind Noise. Also, without the use of the Rear Deck area, as with a Hardtop car, you really lose a lot of space, to be practical for a sound system, unfortunately.o No:
I only built the frame, and the speakers were bought and supplied to me, so I don't know what the speakers cost, to give you a total price.o No: That's why I'd just like to build the frames, for a set price (that I haven't figured out, just yet), and then let you choose, buy and install your own speakers on the frame, so you'd have exactly what speakers you want, mounted in the original speaker position, as an improvement for your upgraded radio. I would like to compete with Custom Autosound, just because I feel that I have a better design to offer, compared to theirs, and I could probably charge around 1/2 of what their setup costs. Let me do some more research, and I'll post some more pictures, so maybe you can help me, to help you!:beer
Why would anyone "plan" on that, when there are so many BETTER choices available?!:TU::laugh: Just kidding, of course!:beer I only build these with intention that most guys want to Upgrade their Original radio (AM:sleep: or AM/FM) to a Modern radio (AM/FM/CD/MP3, etc.:bglasses: ), and also change from the original Single (1-Mono) speaker, to a Dual (2-Stereo) speakers, for better overall sound! Whether they use a Hidden stereo system, or want to replace the original indash radio, the speaker will not been seen, anyway, Only HEARD!:TU::bglasses: The only Originality factor is how it FITS!:bglasses: Nothing else.
Don't hate us just because we're beautiful... :laugh: It's not anymore complicated than the original front speaker that came from the factory!:Smarty: I take all the underdash measurements, FIRST, and then build the speaker frame. I don't do any "Test Fitting" until AFTER it's all built and ready to install, and it only takes ONE time! You shouldn't have to test fit, and then file, and test fit and file... That takes too much TIME! While it takes me about 6 HOURS to build ONE frame, when it's Finished, it FITS, just as the Original speaker does! But it also LOOKS BETTER!:bglasses: I wish I could've helped with that... :beer
It fits exactly as the original speaker!:Smarty: You can't see the bracket hole in the top pic, because of the angle that I took the picture. You can see it in the bottom pic, though!:TU:
Bill, It's actually kind of like a gum adhesive. I snapped the pic, before the paper was peeled off, so you could see the detail of the speakers. Once the paper is peeled off, I covered the frame with a fabric mesh material, to protect the speakers from dirt/bugs/etc. that would fall in the dash vent, on top of the speakers, just as the original speaker has. :bglasses: The adhesive helps absorb/cushion the speaker vibration between the speaker frame and the dash, instead of having just a metal to metal surface.:Smarty: As the STYX song goes: I've got Too Much Time On My Hands!:TU:
It looks like those speakers are in the $60 - $80 range online (higher price being Crutchfield). I bet there will be a lot of interest in finished frames! Once my car is on the road and running again, I've already got the stereo and speakers waiting (bought as I found some great sales over the last couple of years). Here's the speakers that are planned to go in the front:
Scott What's the latest on the speaker frames (and hopefully the support bracket)? I sure would be interested in mounting a dual speaker setup in my car before Bowling Green. From the response, you may have to quit your day job and build speaker frames for a living! :TU: :TU: :TU: :beer
Randy, Although I've always enjoyed designing and fabrication, I've never really done too much of it, so this is a new self taught skill that I've found! I'm very proud of the frames that I've built, so far, as they're at least as strong as the originals, if not more so! I'm going to try to build as many as I can, a little ahead, so I can start distributing them, as I get them done.:Smarty: Actually, I don't have a day job to quit, I work from home, anyway!:bglasses: My "work" philosophy is: Part Time Work/Full Time PAY... so I own an internet shopping business, since '96, among other sources of income, as I would rather stay home to do what I WANT to do (work in the garage/home improvement projects/play video games/etc.).:TU: I'm looking at getting some bigger equipment for building these frames, too, like a metal shear/brake (for cutting and folding the metal), and a Plasma Cutter (for trimming the holes and the support bracket), to save on production time, and also improve quality!:bglasses: I'll try to get some more done ahead of time, with what tools I already have, and make available what I get done, if that would be alright!:beer
