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Discussion in 'Race 400/430/455' started by Briz, Dec 25, 2018.

  1. Daves 71 GS

    Daves 71 GS Well-Known Member

    Congrats on the purchase.I Did the same thing,took advantage of the sale.3" mains,54mm cam tunnel also.Time to look into a crank now.
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2018
  2. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    OR sh!7 can the 307 and get a nice 350 or 403 olds to swap in if you're going to keep it incorrect wheel drive? Look for a '68 to '72 olds 350, before the block casting was "lightened" and also weakened if you want even more than what the extra cubes will give you.

    Not sure how much power the front wheel drive trans can be built to handle though so there is that to take in consideration when upgrading the power output as well?

    As for it being "to nice" its not original anymore because the original engine is NOT in it so its already technically modified.

    Being that it is "nice" means less work to make it a great looking race car. With 555 cubes, a little extra weight leaving it an all steel body shouldn't hinder its forward movement much at all. That being said, there is probably still a lot of dead weight that could be removed to lighten that baby up too.

    If not that Riv as the new race car then maybe you can find a nice Buick Apollo for that 555?
  3. Briz

    Briz Platinum Level Contributor

    I had a early 350 here when I did the swap and it wont bolt up to the trans. wont use the metric flex plate and has non of the engine mount bolt holes in the correct locations. Then there is the funky oil pan and exhaust manifolds. along with all the sensors and stuff needed to make the dash work correctly. I put it back together using as correct of an engine as possible and wired / plumbed it all to factory specks. Figuring the guy that bought it would want it like original. My next race car will be a small body tube chassis or back half'd car.
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  4. DasRottweiler

    DasRottweiler -BuickAddict-

    I like the Tomahawked Apollo idea. Backhalfed , full cage, lexan windows, as much fiberglass as is available and a big chute.
    The Novas won't know what happened.
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  5. 12lives

    12lives Engage! - Jean-Luc Picard

  6. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member


    $1k and you can own it
  7. Briz

    Briz Platinum Level Contributor

    Yep. Thats what I want but Id like it ready to run - engine / trans. Seen a few around but will have to wait until the time and money is right. Its gonna be a long road on this build.
  8. sriley531

    sriley531 Buckle up, this could get rough....

    Good on ya Briz, wish I was patient enough for a "long road" build. I get antsy and all hell breaks loose...
  9. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    I dont think you can use a center sump oil pan on a Tomahawk. So that would mean no chance for the Riviera.
  10. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    Briz' s Riviera is rear wheele drive.
  11. Briz

    Briz Platinum Level Contributor

    If I was ever in the mind set to really go forward with that idea A custom pan wouldbe needed. The engine is using a ext wet sump oil pump and drawing out of the bottom of the pan so the sump would not be an issue
  12. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    The shape of the pan. The centerlink and frame. Only pan that fits the riv is a center sump pan .
  13. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    I guess it depends on how shallow a pan can be used.
  14. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    Wow, man thats a long list of parts youl need.
    Are you going stg 2 TE heads. ? Spx , all roller, .
    Does tbe TA timing cover fit with the raised or larger cam? Are you going with a front or mid plate?At least you wont have to use all that extra oiling stuff, except the pre oiler.Ounce you get all the parts together I csn think of only 2 places I would want to put it together. Then by the time its all together , TA will have their new WW heads ready.
  15. Briz

    Briz Platinum Level Contributor

    I'll be reusing the S3 heads,roller rockers, oil pan, oiling system, intake, water pump, headers and front plate i have now. Anything that I currently own and works can be transferred onto the new short block. Will discus with Jim Wise the specs of the rotating assmb and cam.Yes will go with all roller stuff. Thinking of keeping the compression around 10-1 and running pump gas or E-85 rather than the 13-1.
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  16. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    If you go corn set comp at 13.1 or more no reason not to, for 93 I wouldn't consider any less than 11.5 you ll have plenty of cam in it to run higher static comp with 93
  17. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    I was going to say the same as hugger, e85 is roughly 105 need to only run 10:1. you can get an extra 10% or more out of it by going up in compression.

    If i raced more often i would be running meth. so much more consistent and alot of cars pick up with it.

    one of the plans I have t
    rolling around is to put a small tank that I could easily turn on and off but join in the same feed system and once done racing just turn the other tank on to flush the system, and drain the main tank
  18. 1972Mach1

    1972Mach1 Just some guy.....

    Agreed, if you have e85 available, you might as well take advantage of the compression it's able to handle.
  19. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    Anybody ever mix e85 and 93/91 oct gas?
  20. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Don't know why anyone would

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