Can anyone ID this rear end?

Discussion in 'Got gears?' started by Dr. Evil, May 16, 2020.

  1. Dr. Evil

    Dr. Evil Silver Level contributor

    Seller says it's out of a 72 Cutlass. He's asking $300 for it. I'm in no hurry to upgrade but would like to have something better than my current one wheel peel 8.2 in my 65
    Pass or grab?

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  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  3. Dr. Evil

    Dr. Evil Silver Level contributor

    I thought so to Larry but the cover looks different. I know there were some odd stuff out there.
     
  4. Dr. Evil

    Dr. Evil Silver Level contributor

    I found on another site, a post by monzaz no less, where he identified one like this as an Old's 71-72 rear 8.5 posi Trac clutch type unit. Apparently parts aren't readily available.
     
  5. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    No, I think he was referring to the Olds "O" type rear. The cover has 12 bolts and 10 bolt internals. That's a good rear, but harder to get parts for. The rear you pictured is a 10 bolt cover. I still think it is the 8.5 just like in the Skylark/GS
     
  6. Dr. Evil

    Dr. Evil Silver Level contributor

    So for $300 do you pull the trigger?
     
  7. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    PM Monzaz and Brian Trick and ask them to give it a look.
     
  8. flh73

    flh73 Gold Level Contributor

    The Olds cover is slightly different doesn’t have the cutout for the rear brake line junction bracket. Easy altered.
     
  9. techg8

    techg8 The BS GS

    $ 300 for a posi 8.5 rear is a good price, especially if it is a 3 series carrier. Id buy them like that all day long.

    that is 100% a 10 bolt 8.5" rear.
     
  10. BrianTrick

    BrianTrick Brian Trick

    That IS and 8.5” 10-bolt posi,BUT it does NOt look like a 71-72. Do you have pictures of the whole rearend? It looks like a 73-77.
     
  11. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    As Brian said...Looks like the upper control arm mounts are far apart like the 73-77...BE CAREFUL ...get the complete rear pictures or NO DEAL.
    the perches need to be hanging off the front to the tube and the shock mounts on the back of the lower control arm mounts.
    IF the perches are centered and the shock mounts are in front of the axle tubes then it is a 73- 77 and WILL NOT WORK for you. Jim
    JD Race
     
  12. Dr. Evil

    Dr. Evil Silver Level contributor

    Here's the best pic I have of the entire rear. It looks like the perches and shock mounts are correct.
     

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  13. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    wELL IT APPEARS TO BE CORRECT 71 72 ERA. tricky pictures are really BAD. lol.
    Last thing would be the width at 55.25 flange to flange 56.25 will be 73 - 77.
    Jim
     
  14. BrianTrick

    BrianTrick Brian Trick

    Jim,
    Take a better look at it. Yes,this one can trick you(no pun intended)
    It look like the spring mounts were moved forward. If you look closely,it looks like the forward shock mounts are still intact,and the just simply installed the shock studs on the rear vertical plate that the 73-77 has. It might be a very old swap that has aged.
     
  15. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    yES i DID SEE THAT ALSO. tHE BACK SHOCK MOUNTs are very hard to see too. Just need more pictures and a length.
    I was comparing the rear ears with pictures I have here from the rear and was VERY close in looks.
    BUT yes I did see the spring perches being welded (not factory it looks like)
    and the rear perches should hang back further from that angle...So you maybe right.

    Jim
     
  16. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    All the pictures given sure seem to hide the dead give aways we need. :)
     
  17. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    If you look closely,it looks like the forward shock mounts are still intact,and the just simply installed the shock studs on the rear vertical plate that the 73-77 has

    YOUR eyes are much better than mine...I could not zoom in on that picture...NOW I see them... :)
     
  18. Dr. Evil

    Dr. Evil Silver Level contributor

    Well, it sold right before I got there. I actually passed the guy who bought it coming out.
    I'm just going to buy one from Brian or something. But that will likely have to wait until late summer. This was something local that popped up.
     
  19. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    i THINK THINGS went the right way for you....I think Brian was correct in seeing the lower control arms and consider it a close call ...be glad you did not buy it.. t would not have worked out for you...knock on wood. :)
     

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