Buildsheet disappointment

Discussion in 'The "Paper Trail"' started by Thumper (aka greatscat), Feb 20, 2010.

  1. cougar1948

    cougar1948 Well-Known Member

    Would anyone be willing to scan and email me a copy of a good readable build sheet? I have a Fremont built 69 GS400 with auto, vinyl top, buckets with console, air, pearl white seats, etc. I have found my build sheet but it was on the floor under the rear seat and has a lot of rust on it. I'm thinking if I saw a good one, I might be able to make out most of the codes. I can see some, some partial and a couple not at all. I'd appreciate any help anyone could give me.
    Thanks,
    Gary
     
  2. dl7265

    dl7265 No car then Mopar


    Gary, contact "Duane" on the board. He decodes the build sheets :TU:

    Gary P, so your saying it went into the trash ? :eek2::(:Dou:


    DL
     
  3. Thumper (aka greatscat)

    Thumper (aka greatscat) Well-Known Member

    Young and foolish,yep.We didn't need no window sticker.
    gary
     
  4. staged70

    staged70 RIP

    Window sticker==Got it:)
    build sheet ==dont got it:(
     
  5. DMoore

    DMoore Well-Known Member

    Gary

    I cant believe it took you 41 years to do this.....:pp
     
  6. Thumper (aka greatscat)

    Thumper (aka greatscat) Well-Known Member

    Hey Denny.you know us old farts are patient.
    gary
     
  7. Thumper (aka greatscat)

    Thumper (aka greatscat) Well-Known Member

    Here's the build sheet,does it fit anyones 69? Also,can anyone decode it for me?
    gary
     

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  8. Duane

    Duane Member

    Just from looking at it quickly, and this is from memory

    It's from a 69 GS 400 Coupe, with a 4-speed, posi rear, non AC, and I believe it also came with a Blue interior.
    Duane
     
  9. 70GS455V8

    70GS455V8 Well-Known Member

    My build sheet was also missing. My car is a gs convertible March of 70 from Flint. Anyone out there end up with the wrong sheet from this month. Would be glad to compare numbers...

    Thanks, Bob.
     
  10. 69GS400Stage1

    69GS400Stage1 Go Topless!!

    I found 2 build sheets in my 69.:grin: Found them under the rug on pass. side. The down side is that they are so dark you have to use a light on the back side to see anything.:puzzled:

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  11. Chris Cornett

    Chris Cornett Well-Known Member

    The same thing happened to me with my 71. It was 3 cars away. Since there were only 51 4 speeds built in 71 I wasa hoping to find it, Oh well instead I found a sheet for a 4 door Skylark with A/C.
     
  12. 69GS400s

    69GS400s ...my own amusement ride!

    Gary - did you check behind the rear seatback ?
     
  13. Dan Healey

    Dan Healey Well-Known Member

    Those are Fisher Body Final sheets, not the Buick Final Assembly build sheet.
     
  14. Duane

    Duane Member

    Dan,
    Sorry but you're wrong. Those are the large General Motors Assembly Division (GMAD) sheets that were used for final assembly.

    These sheets would have been used at all GMAD plants like Fremont CA. & Framingham Mass. and are completely different then the ones used in Flint Mi. that was run by Buick.

    There are something like 100-115 blocks/spaces and they basically list every part needed to build a vehicle.

    The really fun thing about decoding these is that many of the codes are dependent on which plant the car was built. They can be a real "treasure" to decode.
    Duane
     
  15. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    Hey Gary,

    here's a thought..

    maybe that is actually your build sheet... just with the wrong VIN on it...

    I guess it occurs to me it would be a wild coincidence that it just happens to be for a 69 GS 400 4 speed car.. just like yours is..

    maybe you should have Duane decode the whole thing, and see if the options match up to yours.

    JW
     
  16. Thumper (aka greatscat)

    Thumper (aka greatscat) Well-Known Member

    Good suggestion Jim,I thought of that too .Thats the reasun I asked if anyone could decode it for me.Duane's quick review indicated he thought it has a blue interior,mine is black,but the other things he decoded match,so I guess I need the whole thing decoded if someone could help.
    thanks
    gary
     
  17. Thumper (aka greatscat)

    Thumper (aka greatscat) Well-Known Member

    I had the rear seat out years ago when I locked my keys in the trunk(bonehead kid),I don't remember any paper but I wasn't looking either so I guess removal is in order again.I mirrored under the front seat and nothing.I'll keep looking,thanks for the suggestions and support guys.
    gary
     
  18. Duane

    Duane Member

    ".................maybe you should have Duane decode the whole thing"

    Sounds good on paper, the only problem is I don't know all the manufacturers codes for the Flint 69 buildsheets. I know most of them, but would need to cross reference some more sheets to get them all.

    The big problem is there are so few 69 buildsheets to reference.
    Duane

    PS. This car did have a blue interior without a console, so it could have even come with a bench seat. (This type of buildsheet will not give me the info to determine if it was buckets or bench.)
     
  19. dl7265

    dl7265 No car then Mopar

    Since Gary was nice enough not to hash out the key codes maybe he can see it they match his ? Perhaps that's too easy of an answer. :Do No:

    PS: Did flint paint line #'s on the firewall like Leeds cars I've seen ?


    DL
     
  20. Duane

    Duane Member

    Sorry guys but there is no way this buildsheet could be for Gary's car if it has a different vin & body number.

    Here is how these sheets were developed,
    1. First a Wholesale Car Order form is filled out at the dealership when the car is first ordered. (With all the option codes specified.)
    2. Then this gets passed up through the zone office and finally routed to the correct assembly plant.
    3. At that time this "option sheet" is feed into a computer, is sequenced into the production schedule, and is assigned both a body number (for Fisher) & a vin number. (for Buick/GMAD)
    4. Next the shell gets built (by Fisher) and the body ID plate goes on.
    5. Then the shell goes to final assembly, the options are checked, and the correct vin is attached to the shell.
    6. Then the shell is sequenced, and put into production so it mates up with the correct chassis at final assembly.

    So you see, the "options" dictate the entire sequence, not the other way around.

    JL,
    Flint cars often have the line number written in crayon on the driverside saddle bag. And if you are lucky enough to have a fairly original car with steel rims, you often see this same code crayoned on the outward face of the rims. That was how they sequenced the rim/tire sub assemblies.
    Duane


    PS. It took me 18 years to finally get all the option codes for the 70 Flint Buildsheets and I had a lot of them to cross reference. If you guys want me to get all the 69 codes figured out (so I could prove a 69 is a Stage 1 from the buildsheet) then it's time for everyone that has one of these to get a copy to me.
     

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