Boarder Crossing

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by J Tomlinson, Dec 5, 2002.

  1. J Tomlinson

    J Tomlinson New Member

    Anyone know what bringing a car that you bought in the US back to Canada would involve? I have heard so many things from different people. I have heard of story's were guys had to leave the car at the boarder over night to 2 weeks. Other guys say they get the title signed by a registered commercial building (Funeral Home was the weirdest one I heard) the gaurds will let you right threw. Anyone?

    J
     
  2. 70 gsconvt

    70 gsconvt Silver Level contributor

    First of all, you'll need to get an adapter to remove the "eh" from the radio.

    Then Canadian air is too clean to run in the tires so that will need to be switched to American air.

    You may have to get a new gas tank as cars from up in Canada have a 73 litre tank, not 20 gallon.

    They'll probably be some tree branches stuck up under the body that'll have to be removed. I won't even get into how the moose "tracks" got on the trunk lid.

    Lastly, you'll probably have to speak some french for a while, as the car will take time to acclimate to having "American" spoken around it all the time.

    Just kidding, I have no idea what is involved with transporting a car to the States. Just couldn't resist having a little fun.
     
  3. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    LOL!, Phillip, you were having so much fun you may have missed the fact that he's going TO Canada, not coming FROM there. :laugh:
     
  4. Leviathan

    Leviathan Inmate of the Month

    You'll need a broker to handle the GST collection and import requirements...

    Oh, don't forget, the US has a 24 Hour/60sec clock instead of our 26 Hour/100 sec Metric one, you'll need to convert the timing.
     
  5. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    border problems

    guys:
    here goes. if u are purchasing the vehicle & importing it in to canada , u will need to do the following , -
    1) depending on the export state, u will need a clear title , preferably an export type title . u may also need an export
    certificate from the state (ie. michigan) .
    2) u will need to run the serial # of the vehicle thru ncic to determine whether or not the vehicle is stolen .
    3) u will need a signed/dated bill of sale
    4) also make a photocopy of the cheque that u pay for the vehicle with .
    5) u should run a search in the state to be sure there are no liens
    against the vehicle which could come back to haunt u if happen to return to the state of purchase & the police happen to stop u for a moving violation .
    6) u should also stop a u.s. customs before entering canada & show them that the ncic check is clean .
    7) once in canada, u will have to pay sales taxes . however, that may be waved at customs & u will pay prov & federal tax based on the appraised value of the vehicle when u licence it . customs will present u with papers that state that u have , i believe, 15 days , to register the vehicle . u must have the full appraisal documents with u when u attend the provincial licence bureau . u will also need a safety check certificate & proof of insurance to have your vehicle licenced in canada . or u may obtain from the licence bureau, an unfit vehicle ownership instead . this allows u to register the vehicle, but it cannot be driven as no licence can be purchased .
    i may/may not have missed some items , but i am pretty close on the procedures .
    gerry
    62 gs 35 ht #s
     
  6. J Tomlinson

    J Tomlinson New Member

    thanks for the lowdown gstewart.... and for some laughs, I think, from the rest of you.
     
  7. Dan K

    Dan K Well-Known Member

    Gee,
    I thought NAFTA would have simplified all of that. I know that stolen Texas cars are always turning up in Mexico. The funny thing is, that they are often used by the police down there for a year or two befor they are returned. Heaven help the person caught driving my stolen car in Mexico, cop or thief. If it's mine, I'm getting it back and driving it home.
     
  8. 70 gsconvt

    70 gsconvt Silver Level contributor

    OOOPPSS!!
     
  9. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    border crossing

    guys:
    talk about our canadian bureaucracy ! eh!
    that damn appraisal requirement, increases the taxes paid quite a lot . use to be able to tell the licence bureau that u paid $5000 for a car when the actual cost may have been $20000. u figure out the damn taxes now on $15000 vs $5000!
    we classic car owners get no breaks !
    by the way , we also sell metric beers by the case as per the mckenzie brothers , "great white north" .
    gerry
    72 gs350 ht #s
     
  10. Marc Frappier

    Marc Frappier Big Blocks Rule.

    Guys

    Go check out the post in "Buick FAQ" on "new pump and timing cover". We were talking about taxes and duty fees and Levianthan let me in on a secret.

    Us Canadian folks have to fork out quite a bit for all this importing from the US. Check it out read it carefully.

    I now have my own business number and can now import stuff and save 0.50$ on the dollar. And all of this provided free of charge by our government:cool:

    Marc
     
  11. 69GS400s

    69GS400s ...my own amusement ride!

    Importing From Canada to the U.S.A.

    If anyone reading this is interested in the reprocess of bringing a car FROM Canada to the US, Let me know and I'll start a new thread. I did this 10 years ago....real PITA, but i remember it well:rolleyes:
     
  12. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    border crossing

    guys:
    10 yrs ago there may have been problems importing a vehicle from canada to usa . i believe that , that has changed. my
    brother sold a 71 cutlass convertible & a 72 monte carlo to
    two americans . all the buyers required was a bill of sale and the
    vehicle ownership signed as transferred by my brother. at the u.s. border, the buyer is wise at u.s. customs, to go in and have the vehicle vin ren thru ncic to verify that the vehicle is not listed on the national registry as stolen . now u probably have state rules for registering the vehicle and u may have to have a temporary in-transit licence if u are driving the vehicle home .
    this to the best of my knowledge.
    gerry
    72 gs 350 ht #s
     
  13. 69GS400s

    69GS400s ...my own amusement ride!

    Gerry...., 10 yeras ago it went like this: (Note, this was a car built for American use, not an export car, that was brought to Canada at some prev. time)

    In order to get a NY state registration on a car last registered in Canada - I needed to get US Customs Auto Import certification. In order to get this, I had to prove that the car met both US Safety and US Emmisions standards AT THE TIME OF PRODUCTION.

    This was 1993, 24 years after production, and in order to get anyone at GM or Buick to verify that my car was built to US Safetly and Emmisions standards was no small feat. After Dozens of long distance phone calls and weeks going by, I finally got smart and made a friend at the Customs office. They did me the huge favor of looking back in their system to cars previously imported, and then finding who signed off on their paperwork. The Customs person got me 1 name at GM and one at Oldsmobile (no help). The GM individual was willing to sign off on the Safetly Papers but wouldn't on the emissions. I was persistent but "nice" and asked to talk to someone further up the Foodchain, aka their boss. After a week of trying I finally spoke to their boss at GM, who was a MuscleCar fan and said he couldnt sign what i needed but promised to find out who could.

    The next day he called with a persons name at Buick, the refered me to someone else, and again, and later that day i was faxing the paperwork. When i returned to work the next day, on the floor was the returned and faxed papers !!!

    Then, back to Customs with the two documents, get their document, then to NYS DMV, and FINALLY, after a 7 week maze, i got my registration.

    So....In the end, it wasn't just the process but what the process was asking and finding the proper people with the authority to sign off on what i was being asked to present.
     
  14. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    border

    when the nafta agreement came into existence in late 1995, all the rules changed regarding importing/exporting used cars .
    the old rules stated that a vehicle had to be at least 20 years old to import it into canada & it could not be on a list of vehicles that was deemed to be not-importable into canada .
    there was a legal way, however, to bypass this law . if a u.s. citizen brought the car into canada, validly licenced, and the car stayed in canada one year, it could be registered in ontario .
    also a u.s. car could be registered in canada, if it were to pass thru a public auction (perhaps seized by police, or abandonned, etc) .
    a little history for the enjoyment of the readers.
    oh how things have changed . at least it is a lot easier to import classic cars into canada now . however, most of the classsic cars are being exported from canada to the u.s. because of the monetary exchange .
    gerry
    72 gs 350 ht #s
     

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