OK the wife has said I can install disc brakes on my Hot Rod... What have you folks found to be the best kit to install on the vehicle... Mine is a 1970 Buick Skylark/GS/GSX with drums on all 4 corners... I'm thinking of replacing everything... From the master and booster, lines, purporting valve, spindles, everything .... I will be staying with my Buick 15" wheels/tires right now... OK let me know what you folks have done... I was looking at a good kit this past weekend at the Good Guys meet that looks good... It is from inlinetube.com... http://www.inlinetube.com/ I like the one from SSBC also... http://ssbrakes.com/ .
depends on intended use and what size rims you want to use best kit for some 15s and even 14s right stuff detailing with factory spindles and wilwood d52s 17s and up theirs wilwood, and baer kits kore3 with stock drum is also awsome and you can get all the parts from the part store 17 to 19s depending on rotors size of kits btw, skip on sbbc
OK I was able to straighten out my OP so it can be read easier... I'm looking at staying with the Buick 15" x 7" rims and my 235/60R/15 Front, 275/60R/15 Rears... I would like something different than a stock GM setup... If that is all I can run for know that will be OK, but I hope not... It will be 100% better than Power Drum Brakes on all 4 corners... I guess I would like something like those fancy Brembro or those wilwood 4 piston brakes, BUT I don't want to have to put 17" (or bigger) rims on her right know... Are there any kits out there that I can use the 15" rims and run something different than GM Style Brakes??? I'm going to be replacing the Front and Rear Springs also, the ones on there are well worn and I'm hitting my headers way to often right now... Thanks .
For your car the Wilwood d52s will work fine, and you can likely order a full kit. I am doing the same on my car... replacing EVERYTHING with new 4 wheel disks, master, lines, etc.
Thanks, I'll have to go to Wilwoods Webpage and check them out... I guess another question is can I use my Brake Booster that is on the car know, or do I need to change that, I guess I just answered my own question as I said it in my head... Why would I leave an old booster on the car and put everything else new, I'll change the booster also... How about the Spindles, do I need to change those??? If I do I want stock height ones, I'm not building a Pro Touring car (yet that is :Brow: )... Thanks for the help... .
My 67GS has 4 piston calipers and they fit in a 15" rim, I even have 14" rims on mine but I need a spacer. My calipers are big as hell so the big Wilwood might not need really big rims I only have mine as a reference but it might be worth checking in to them.
OK that answers that question... I can get the whole set up front & rear and booster/master, ext from In Line Tube Company for what the Wilwood would cost me for just the fronts... I'd love to go that way but I don't have 3 grand for brakes, I can get everything for around 1 to 1 1/2 grand through In Line Tube Company or SSBC... The guy at the Good Guys Show told me I could get the "Show Price", I hope they still honor it when I call in... I'll load up some photo's and prices/part numbers when I do it... Thanks Again Everyone... .
No worries, I am sure the SSBC brakes are fine. Yes you need disk type spindles. Keep us posted with pics, I will consider the same kit... Something about Twin Turbos under the hood of my Skylark begs for 4 wheel disk brakes.
Ya they will be standard GM style brakes, but I can do it up some... I'm thinking something like a slotted/drilled rotor with some good performance pads will do the trick... I will add some photo's and numbers when I do it... Thanks .
I would not run drilled rotors from all the cracking/exploding rotors I've heard of. Maybe they make them different recently but I stay with just the slotted myself. My .02
Yep, drilled rotors tend to crack. When I converted from manual drum/ drum, to power disc/ drum, I used Right Stuff Detailing, complete kit. Uses stock type parts, so any parts store will have pads, rotors, calipers, ect., should I need to replace or refurbish my brakes as time goes by.
Thanks guys, I'll stay away from the drilled... I'm liking the looks of this Booster : ://inlinetube.com/conversion/Booster...smooth... It's smaller and much cleaner looking than the big GM Booster... This is what I'm looking at right now: Front Kit: DBK6807 - $675.00 http://inlinetube.com/disc%20brake%20conversion/DBK6807.htm Complete Inline Tube Standard Kit Includes (all new parts): Rotors, Backing Plates, Spindles, Calipers and Pads, Caliper Brackets, 11" or 9" Delco Style Booster with master pin and clevis, Correct Bleeder Master Cylinder, Brass Disc / Drum Valve / Bracket & Master Cylinder Lines, Brake Hoses / Banjo Bolts & Crush Washers, Bearings / Seals & Dust Caps , And all the Miscellaneous Hardware with Installation Instructions - Everything you see above. We have set the industry standard on disc brake conversions kits - while others give you generic parts we supply the factory correct stuff at no extra charge. Others have a smooth generic booster and master - ours is a delco booster and bleeder master cylinder. Others say they offer a kit for 14" wheels until the parts rub on the rims - Our kits work with 14" wheels. Others say you get all the parts until you go to put it on the car and are missing the valve, hoses or hardware - We do provide all the parts. Others have trade names or company logos largely stamped all over the parts - Our parts are just like the factory, neat and clean. Stainless Braided Flex Hoses - $25.00 Complete Disc Brake Conversion Hard Line Set - $150.00 Stainless . Rear Kit: DBK1012 - $475.00 1964-1972 GM A-Body Rear Disc Kit - Includes Caliper Brackets, New Calipers, Rotors, Pads, Hardware, Hoses, Hose Brackets and Parking Brake Cables. Complete Kit Includes (All New Parts): Caliper Brackets, New Calipers, Rotors, Pads, Hoses, Hose Brackets & Lines with Fittings, Banjo Bolts, Crush Washers, all Miscellaneous Hardware and Installation Instructions. Must use 15" or larger wheels. This is a bolt on kit. Complete Disc Brake Conversion Hard Line Set - Stainless $150.00 So that adds up to $1475 and they told me at the Good Guys Event that they would do it for a show price of $1000 (I hope they stick to that). So that will give me everything new, from booster, brake lines, spindles, everything... I can't wait... :laugh: . ---------- Post added 06-26-2013 at 12:11 AM ---------- Previous post was 06-25-2013 at 11:52 PM ---------- OK if I go with SSBC this is what I'm looking at: Front Kit: SKU: A123-1A - $1217.23 http://ssbrakes.com/i-10092536-disc-brake-kit-front-2-piston-super-twin-with-11in-rotor-power-stock-ride-height.html Rear Kit: SKU: A125-26 - $1014.50 http://ssbrakes.com/i-10092133-disc-brake-kit-rear-1-single-piston-sport-r1-with-11-25in-rotor-non-staggered-shocks.html Than it looks like another $500.00 (or so) for the lines. So from SSBC I'm looking at $2732.00 and it doesn't have the nice brake lines that Inline Tube has... I'm going with the In Line Tube Kits...
I went with a stock look for the front discs on my '67 Riviera. MP Brakes in North Carolina custom fabricated me a kit, and assembled them to a set of spindles which originally carried the 4-piston Bendix calipers which were available on the 68 Riviera/Electra/Wildcat. The kit details are as follows: ---snip --- Len, I have done some research on the kit for your 1967 Riviera. You are correct, it was a custom kit that we built for you. We really do not have any documentation for this kit. The calipers we used are 99-04 GM full size SUV (Avalanche, Escalade). The part number for the pads is D785. The rotor is Bendix part no 145254, original application is 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 5 x 5 bolt pattern. I hope this helps. Chris --- snip --- I'm sure the other systems listed will work just as well. The rotors are standard (non-drilled) 12" Bendix, which stop my '67 just fine and don't dust up the front wheels as fast as a drilled rotor might.
The orginal disc brake setup works fine to, more so if you use the metallic brake pads, the brake feel and stopping power is quite good. The wilwood D52 kits doesn't provide more or any improvement incompare with the stock discbrake setup. One thing to note is that, when using the orginal pieces you easily find your brakepads etc. Wilwood stuff always needs to be orderd. I'm using the stock disc /drum setup on my car and stopping the "heavy" car at 120+MPH still does the trick very nicely. Just make sure all is on good condition and you will be good!
Been following this thread with interest as I plan to do a conversion on my 67 Skylark as well. One part that I've not been able to find with Inline or Classic is the metal line that runs from the intake manifold to the power booster. The stock system had a metal line which is bolted to the back of the engine and then a hose to the booster. Any ideas on where I can find this line? Thx, Byas
I want to comment on the use of 67 4 piston caliper brakes, I had those on our 67 2dr HT Skylark, and they are so wide that they only will clear rims that have enough room outward. I tried some other rims once, they seem to fit while on the jack, but when I drove out of the garage they got stuck on the those calipers. I had these refurbished by SSBC, with stainless parts and they brake well. But are not worth the trouble IMO if you can choose another setup. ---------- Post added at 07:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:37 PM ---------- Most cars have a rubberhose for this purpose, I haven't seen metal lines used. Do you have a picture of it, perhaps you are talking about a Y type part where two vacuum hoses can be connected to. Greetz Robert
I am a newbie to these cars so going off of the service manual info. Page 57 (section 50) of the Service Manual shows figure 50-50 which shows the hose and metal tubing assembly clearly. Was going off that info as I am trying to keep it stock looking as much as possible. I assume if enthusiasts are going to the extent of getting the right stampings and casting numbers etc, they would also want to get the right lines. Byas
See my thread on my experience with the wilwood d52s.... They will not fit stock 15x7 wheels without spacers.
David, If Inline won't honor the $1000 offer let me know. I'll see what I can get for you. Byas, I have the tube/hose kits for 68-72 Skylarks/GS. I don't know if 67 is the same. Tube, correct vacuum hose and 2 correct clamps is $25 plus shipping. 350 and 455 use different tubes. Steve
