Bent or out of balance crank or bad balancer??

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  1. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    I noticed last year that my crank pulley had a slight wobble to it and that my flex plate had a heavy wobble. So I got a new flex plate that will be going on shortly with the trans rebuild and I just put newish aluminum pullies on last weekend and noticed the wobble is still there? I've attached two videos, one is at idle the other is engine under load @ 2500rpm. Any thoughts on this? Is my balancer bad or could my crank be bent? The PO said the crank was polished when the engine was rebuilt, maybe it got dropped??





     
  2. dan zepnick

    dan zepnick Well-Known Member

    Are you sure the bolt is torqued? I had one loosen up and caused the crank to get scored and that's what mine looked like.pull the balancer off and dial indicate the crank to see if the snout is bent or out of round.
     
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  3. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    When I was changing the pulley I looked at the balancer and it looked to be in good shape. I will have to check to see if the balancer is torqued. Excuse my ignorance Dan but how do I go about dial indicating the crank snout??
     
  4. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    x2 on torque.........you would need a magnetic base stand and dial indicator gauge.......both can be had a harbor freight for nor much money. pull balancer.......set the pointer arm against the crank snout, rotate crank........remove plugs to make this happen easier........watch gauge to see if it moves.......you wont be able to make a full 360 due to keyway.

    the snout could be bent but the center part not.........but I would try another dampner b4 jumping to crank.

    as far as flex plate, my new jw had almost .030 run out but my flange almost 0. called me, they said it's well within specs......???????? to me that mean my ta is moving that much in and out of my pump gears and everything else.........but when bolted to tq it didnt move that much.
     
  5. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Torque spec for the balancer bolt is 250 ft/lbs correct? Here's a video of my current flex plate that's coming off very soon. I'm almost certain this played a part in my trans leaking at the front main seal, along with what ever abuse it's endured by PO's having fun with it.
     
  6. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    I think 200 minimum but its easy enough to find
     
  7. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Yeh I've read 200 ft/lbs too.
     
  8. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    I would be willing to bet that flexplate is broken.

    200 on the balancer bolt.

    JW
     
  9. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    I agree 100% Jim. Can that transfer through the crank and "open up" the clearances of the bearings by chance? And also warp the crank to make the pulley wobble also?
     
  10. dan zepnick

    dan zepnick Well-Known Member

    X2 on Ben's post on how it indicate the crank snout.when you remove the balancer look close at the inside and the crank surface to see if there's evidence that metal transferred between the two. It'll be rough,kinda lumpy. You'll have to use some croakus cloth sand paper to clean it up to get a good clean surface to before you try to indicate it.
    I lost a block due to a wobbling balancer because it cracked the main webbing bad. Even with a girdle installed. Post some pics of the crank snout.
     
  11. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    I will when I get time to take in apart.
     

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