I just got back some info. on my 72 Suncoupe. Wow a lot of things have been change since new. I mainly wanted to confirm that yes, it is a real Suncoupe. interesting things I found out. 1. The car was a dealer demo car 2. it's a zone 13-109 3. Dave Cross Motors in Lees Summit,MO 4. fire red w/ white bench seat-interior 5. red carpet 6. white vinyl roof as you can see it's not the same car I bought, but I like the new look of it now. I wonder if item # 1, #5 is rare? I have some pics in my Vehicles garage tab. I will need to double check my trim tag as it may not be the same? If in fact is not the same, has anyone ordered I new trim tag for their car? In the end I would say the investment to find out was worth it. Would like to hear from the Suncoupe Guys.
This is my trim tag info: Trim Tag: ST72 44437fl1 171214BDY TR138 65B PNT 05A A51 Tom, can you double chk. it. I will take a pic of the trim tag to double chk again. based on what came back from Sloan I have Fire Red, White top,White vinyl roof , white interior. Trim is 345 vinyl notchback, Bench or buckets?
ST72 = 1972 model 4 = buick 4437 = Skylark custom sport coupe FL1 = Flint Plant 171214BDY = Fisher body number TR138 = Fisher trim code for back vinyl notchback, the GM code for black vinyl notchback is 248 or 348 PNT 65 = Flame orange paint B= Black vinyl top 05A is the build date of the first week of May, 1972 This info is way different than what your sloan info says your car originally was. Is the vin correct on the Sloan info? Does the body number match the Sloan info (171214)?
Sloan is correct, I have some paperwork dates back to 1996 which shows the same vin #, title says red color. That's why I always wonder about the color and if it even was a real Suncoupe. So someone when doing the paint and interior decided to change trim tag info. I guess they would have had a donor car. I'm glad it's a real Suncoupe. The tell tell sign would be the body number. All the changes were done in good taste but why mess with the trim tag. Can I get one redone? would this hurt the value ??
Does the body number on the Sloan docs match the trim tag? Does the model number 4437 match the Sloan documents. The Suncoupe option was "usually" on the Skylark 350 model 3337. As we know the Suncoupe option was also added to other models like the GS even though it was not listed as an available option. What is the invoice date on the sloan documents? The build date on the cowl tag is the first week of May, 1972. The invoice date should be close (before) the 1st week of May. If the body number matches the trim tag and the sloan documents I will be very confused. My guess is that the body was swapped and the vin from the original suncoupe was added but the cowl tag from the donor car was left on.. This is just a guess based on the info provided.
At one time there was (may still be) a company that would reproduce or custom make GM trim tags. You had to prove you owned the car but were welcome to change the codes if you wished. Patrick
Mike is correct. A Sun coupe was on the Skylark 350 model which would be 3337. A Skylark sport coupe would be 4437 So the model # on the VIN doesn't match the model # on the trim tag?
Suncoupes were available on all except the sedan. Could be a typo at red car would be 75 and not 65. The trim tag doesnt have a VIN on it so its legal to change them
True, but the actual Suncoupe option was only listed on the Skylark 350 dealer order form in 1972. Its not only the car color that's wrong on the trim tag, the interior code is also wrong along with the top color. While it may be legal to change the trim tag, why bother? (I know, why not, lets not go off in that direction ou
The Sloan Doc. shows 3337 4D37 Skylark Sports Coupe 350. I notice that the inside of the doors were red and the rear section behind the rear bumper is also red and inside of the rear Quarters also red. So the body would be correct? maybe the cowl section was replaced.
This is interesting to me only because I bought a new 1972 Sun Coupe off the dealer showroom floor in August 1972. Wish I had the documentation but I don't since it was 45 years ago. Orange with white vinyl top, half top sort of, and white interior. Skylark 350 with a 2bbl carb. They had three new ones for sale. A green, a yellow, and the orange one inside on the showroom floor. All the same Skylark 350 models with 2bbl carbs. For what it is worth. In Barrington, Illinois. Stiker price was $4200 if I remember right and it had ac but not much else in the way of options besides map light and the ralley wheels. Incredibly snazzy car at the time for a 21 year old. Not fast but it looked fast, especially after I put white letter tires on it.
Just wanted to let you know Dave Cross Motors, in Lee's Summit, MO is still in business. I can watch for items with that dealer on them, if you want. Rick
I did reach out to them via email but never got a response, it would be nice to get some promo items from this dealership just to have to tie back to the car. thanks for the look out !
I will most likely will have a new one made, found a company that will do it pricey thou about $250.00 I had a look of a real trim tag from another suncoupe to compare the info since that car has the same color option and trim on it. just need to figure out build date of car, don't know if sloan's date would be the one to use on trim tag ? may need some help with that......... In hindsight for now color and interior will stay as is, i like the color and black interior. one thing that i'm thinking is to maybe put back the original RED carpet or stay with black..... what do you guys think ??? since that was a special order. Right now i've been busy redoing the rear bumper area and rear suspension, putting together the N-25 option as we speak,very expensive........ will post my results once done............
I am far from an expert and I would say that a bunch of folks would say that it very wrong to make a new trim tag. Perhaps illegal. I am in that group. But as far as date goes, later is better than sooner so that the date codes on parts is not after the assembly date.
IMO if your not changing everything back as built then leave it as is. If you come across another Suncoupe let me know.. I'm looking
