67 Riviera 430 Build

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by johnriv67, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Johnny, Without the brake lathe your not gonna do it at home. Theres plenty of shops around you that can do it. Most muffler shops would probably have the machine

     
  2. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    Finally looking at your photo on my apple screen. (Cant figure out how to enlarge on a PC). it almost looks like your pins are longer on the 2pic than the first pic, Try swaping the pins before you do anything. or even the cylinders...
     
  3. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    Further reading ........wheel cylinder redo kits WTF............ Did you rebuild your cylinders? Are you sure you did it right? pistons in the right way?
     
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  4. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    How many of you guys ever even heard of arcing your brake shoes? This is why your back yard Drum brake jobs dont work right.. another lost art. FWIW very few shops do it right either, So most are just backyard shops..
     
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  5. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    I’m sure I did I right, I rebuilt one last year and put it back fine when one of the wheel cylinders seized
     
  6. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    Myself I haven't known of any body rebuilding a wheel cylinder in over 35 years. Reason being most of the old cylinder bodies are shot .......About 8$ for the kit 20$ for a new one todays $$$$$
     
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  7. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Yeah it just didn’t occur to me that it was so cheap. I’m sorta of the mind that if it worked when it was new, it’ll work again, so I try to reuse the OE GM stuff instead of China’s finest
     
  8. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    Do you know what I mean by your Pins look like they are different lengths?
     
  9. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Yes, the two pins extending from the wheel cylinder. I might not have had them both pushed in all the way. When lined up together outside of the cylinder they appeared to be the same length.
     
  10. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    Good..

    Do you have just a dab of lube for your shoes on the back plates? At 1,3 5 7 9 11 O'clocks

    That link I posted they may be able to point you to a place that could Arc your linings local..

    Good luck. Be very patient. Lots of people have a bad time with drum brakes...Including me at times..
    Drum brakes work Great when done Right..
     
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  11. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    What type of lube would work well?
     
  12. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    Anti seize is my choice but messy ..... Just a dab.... You should see were markings for were to lube.
     
  13. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    Drum Brake Lubrication Points

    Whether you have an older vehicle that uses drum brakes, a newer vehicle that uses them for cost-efficiency, or a smaller vehicle like an ATV, there are few key places that need lubrication. Here are a few helpful hints that will help you lubricate your drum brakes properly.

    • Don't ever put lubricant on the inside of the drum where the shoes/pads contact the drum. This will cause the brakes to stop working, and could be very dangerous.
    • Use lubricant on the backing plate. You'll find small ridges where the shoe rests; these can be sanded lightly with a grinding wheel, and then lubricated.
    • The adjustable star-wheel that separates the shoes can be prone to freezing, so it should be lubricated.
    • The parking brake usually uses the rear drum brakes in your car, so lubricate the parking brake cable and any linkages or moving parts.
    • Make sure you lubricate the separator located about halfway up the shoe.
    • Use lubricant anywhere you find metal-to-metal contact between moving parts, such as where the shoes slide.
    • Don't use dry film lubricant where the lube might contact rubber or plastic seals.
    • Don't overlubricate -- you don't want excess lubricant dripping into places it shouldn't go.
     
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  14. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    All four drums have now been turned. The rears still don’t fit
     
  15. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    I have resorted to sanding down my new brake shoes to obtain clearance

    I.am.so.done.with.this.
     
  16. 1972Mach1

    1972Mach1 Just some M.M.O.G. guy.....

    I understand your frustration, and something is most likely off, but modifying aftermarket parts to fit is unfortunately a huge part of the car hobby. If it was easy, everybody would be driving and working on classic cars. You're currently living the reason most guys even on this forum just pay someone to work on their car for them. It'll be worth it when you're done......Wait until you start building "big" engines with induction systems like turbos and blowers if you want to really see some frustration and time investment. And custom chassis and suspensions.....and installing four wheel disc brakes from cars they weren't made to go on.......
     
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  17. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    The episode is coming to a close, so I can only hope. The rear brakes are on. I combined shoes from two different brake kits, cause why the F not? It worked
     
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  18. 1972Mach1

    1972Mach1 Just some M.M.O.G. guy.....

    Perfect :D
     
  19. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    A long shoe and a short shoe on each side, Right?
     
  20. 1972Mach1

    1972Mach1 Just some M.M.O.G. guy.....

    I'm assuming he got that right............
     

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