67-69 430 rocker arm

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by TexasT, Nov 5, 2017.

  1. TexasT

    TexasT Texas, where are you from

    I'm still in the planning(for like two decades now) stages of my 455 build. I do a lot of reading on this site about what is out there and what can be done on a budget. In this thread at reply #34 the 68-69 430 rocker arms are pointed out as a budget way to do this. http://www.v8buick.com/index.php?threads/500-hp-edelbrock-b4b-what-happens-to-low-end.318740/page-2
    Mr Weise stated that he has two engines that showed the pattern of rockers having difficulty and that was a pattern. I have set out to find "cheap" used 68-69 430 rockers and i Guess they are different from the 67 rockers.


    I found these in a search, but they are listed for a 67.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/112624942908?_trksid=p2062857.m570.l5999&_trkparms=gh1g=I112624942908.N36.S2.R3.TR9

    This leads to my question. What are the part number(s) I need to be looking for? Mentioned in this thread
    http://www.v8buick.com/index.php?th...er-arm-for-a-1969-gs-400.322616/#post-2709922
    the part numbers for left and right are different. post #13

    Is there a way to identify the different rockers? Casting number or general appearance? I think I have some that came with the 430 heads I have but I will have to locate them. I might have time for that as it looks like I will be laid off on the 12th. But I went to an interview on Thursday and they already made an offer. Not a perfect fit but a job none the less. Enough of my personal struggles, I have a BBB to plan out.
     
  2. TexasT

    TexasT Texas, where are you from

    Pic of the ebay listing
     

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  3. john.schaefer77

    john.schaefer77 Well-Known Member

    Just a side note just remember to get hybrid pushrods with the 455 lifters to oil through the pushrods.
     
  4. Nicholas Sloop

    Nicholas Sloop '08 GS Nats BSA runner up

    casting numbers may vary, but what you are looking for are 67-69 rockers. Should you get those e-bay rockers, there are still other parts you need--springs, hold downs. etc. You shouldn't have much trouble finding a complete set of 67-69 rockers and shafts.
     
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  5. TexasT

    TexasT Texas, where are you from

    you were right about easy to find. I thought about it and went digging in the garage(seemingly endless crap) and low and behold I dug this set up.
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    popped the VC off and wallah.

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    gotta do a little search for this casting . I pulled em from the wrecking yard as a young lad back in the eighties when stuff like this could be found in a yard. They have made a move or five since. I hope they check out after carting them around all these years
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    I hate to admit we are hoarders. The wife and I have a deal. She doesn't throw out my stuff and I don't throw out hers. Works for us.
     
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  6. TexasT

    TexasT Texas, where are you from

    for those keeping track there are two different numbers on this head.
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    also have the hold downs mentioned in other threads I have read.
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    goon need a valve job. I guess these sat in the yard a while with the valves open.

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    I am pretty excited with this discovery. Way better than laying down some cash for some more.
     
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  7. techg8

    techg8 The BS GS

    Whose hybrid rods? TA I am guessing? JW/trishield?

    Forgive my ignorance. 430 pushrods Drilled for oil thru? Or do they have different ball ends?

    Thanks for any info.
     
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  8. gscalifornia

    gscalifornia Small blocks rule!!

    The pre-1970 pushrods were all solid as the rockers were oiled through the shafts, not through the lifters and pushrods. There is also a difference in the balls on the end of the rods, earlier pushrods had larger balls. The hybrid pushrods have the small ball on the bottom for the oil-style lifters are drilled through the center and have the large ball on the top to work with the cup in the early style rockers. As far as I know most people buy them from TA
     
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  9. techg8

    techg8 The BS GS

    Good info thanks. I've got a 430 I'll be modifying.
     
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  10. john.schaefer77

    john.schaefer77 Well-Known Member

    There are some naysayers about the adjustable rods. My experience is they are good. I guess with extreme valve springs pressure there can be issues.
     
  11. TexasT

    TexasT Texas, where are you from

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