Part of Einstein's theory of relativity states that time is associated with the speed of light. At the speed of light, time stands still. Now all you have to do is get that nailhead powered machine of yours to move you faster than the speed of light and you'll have your time machine to move you back to 1966. Perhaps a nailhead can be rigged to run on a flux capacitor. In the photo pasted to post #6, the names of the gentlemen responsible for the GS convertible in the picture are Butch Sentner, R.H. Rachtmann, and Hank Siedel. Perhaps someone in the neighborhood of that dealership could see if any of them are still around and ask them a few questions.
that convertible is too cool. i sent my mom pics and told her we need to turn her white 66 gs into a tribute car. guess she wasnt feeling it though lol.
I have talked to Butch Sentner... he had lots of info on subject of 332 HP cars... he laso raced against Bob Musser in 66 and beat him...love to have pics of those to cars going at it back in the day... nailhead time machine....now we are getting somewhere...!! I'm up for that ride!
Butch is the guy I met at the show a few years ago. Said the vert was an AFB car. They modded it to race for a season, then returned it to stock and sold it. My gold Q-jet car may have come from his dealership in Emmaus. Does he have a foreign car place now? I have to talk to him....
when i talked with butch he said it was a A9 car he ordered it with heater delete and radio delete.....but said it was a 332 l76 car from the factory they took an engine from a lesebre and built and ordered 11:to 1 parts....then after they raced it....they put the original engine back in...sold it to a customer.
Hi Walt. We have a 1966 Skylark GS with the MS 11:1 engine, 4.30 rear end, Super Lift Delco shocks, and sintered metallic brakes, known around Florida as the Flint Flyer. The car only has 5040 miles---albeit 1/4 mile at a time. I have a lot of paperwork on the car, as well as photos from the original owner. I'm particularly interested in why the Factory would use sintered metallic brakes on this car, as they aren't much good for anything other than road racing (I also have them on my '57 Airbox Corvette, where it does make sense) I've been researching the Buick program for building these cars as it appears to be an "under the table" effort. Bob Altman, the original owner of our car spent a week at Buick expense with famed racer Ollie Olsen "adusting" the engine and Chassis. We have virtually all of the original parts , including the block, crank, pistons, brakes, rear end etc. Jimmy Shiels has already been super helpful in our research. I'd love to talk with anybody havfing first hand knowledge or paperwork on the MS program While I used to crew on the Don Simmons Balchowski Buick Healey that won A/SP at the Oklahoma City Nationals in 1957, I've been away from Buick for 50 years, and am totally new to the forum.
Hi Walt. We have a 1966 Skylark GS with the MS 11:1 engine, 4.30 rear end, Super Lift Delco shocks, and sintered metallic brakes, known around Florida as the Flint Flyer. The car only has 5040 miles---albeit 1/4 mile at a time. I have a lot of paperwork on the car, as well as photos from the original owner. I'm particularly interested in why the Factory would use sintered metallic brakes on this car, as they aren't much good for anything other than road racing (I also have them on my '57 Airbox Corvette, where it does make sense) I've been researching the Buick program for building these cars as it appears to be an "under the table" effort. Bob Altman, the original owner of our car spent a week at Buick expense with famed racer Ollie Olsen "adusting" the engine and Chassis. We have virtually all of the original parts , including the block, crank, pistons, brakes, rear end etc. Jimmy Shiels has already been super helpful in our research. I'd love to talk with anybody hafing first hand knowledge or paperwork on the MS program While I used to crew on the Don Simmons Balchowski Buick Healey that won A/SP at the Oklahoma City Nationals in 1957, I've been away from Buick for 50 years, and am totally new to the forum.
We will be gentile on breaking you back into the Buick world..:Brow: ..as far as paperwork on MS coded blocks...there isn't anything out there except the few letters I have from Buick to NHRA... most people don't even know about 11:to 1 cars.... but as we talked all 11:to 1 cars were built in Flint the last week of Feb of 66...
Jimmy, When you get it done - I'd like one of the first books published - and I'm close enough to pick it up in person!
Jimmy, We also have Buick's submission to NASCAR, with HJ Hresko's hand written note to the zone parts managers referencing the MS engine. There is also George Keelean's letter from the Buick Jacksonville Zone office referencing the Altman car having "the transmission with special modifications, the quadrajet carbeurator, and engine with special modifications, plus the rear axle with Positraction and special ratios". There is also the letter Keelean sent to Altman covering a copy of Dennis Manner's submission to NHRA. Then, there is the stuff from Ollie Olsen's shop and Crane dealing with further "adjustments". As people become more aware of these cars, more information will surface. The fact that Buick was dealing this stuff "under the table" comes as no surprise as there are numerous such examples in the Chevrolet Division. The discussion on stated horsepower also comes as no surprise. The legendary 1967 Corvette L-88 was officially listed as 430 HP versus the tri-power 427 at 435hp---and,we all know now that the L-88 was over 500hp. It may take some time, but I suspect the MS story will come to light. It will just take some patience and a lot of digging. bill
Jimmy, didnt realize you are so close to me. i am 40 mins south in acushnet,mass My sister lives in franklin and hopefully will be bringing the gs up thier during the summer for a little cruise.Are you going to the big Cruise/car show at gilette stadium 2morrow night?i know it is every thurs starting this week.. Paul 66larkgs turbo 401 nailhead
Hi Bill, Great that you joined us! That makes 3 of us on the whole V8Buick board that have an original Q-jet GS! I became aware of your car when Tyler posted the story on the GSCA site. That sure is a unique car!! Hey Jim.....Did you find more info concerning the 10.25:1 MU code vs the 11:1 MS engine?? I still say the A9 option is the MU code version, and the MS code is some sort of special order. The A9 'Wildcat GS' engine option for the Skylark GS could be had by checking off the option box on the order form..... and you get the MU code 10.25:1 engine with Q-jet, 2x4 spec distributor, and (I believe) the '109' cam. BTW, did you get my e-mail?
Walt, Does your car have the sintered metallic brakes? I don't know whether this was a seperate option, or simply part of the 4.30 rear end package. Bill
