455 down for the count?

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by 94IDI, Sep 16, 2020.

  1. 94IDI

    94IDI Jared

    Hey thank you for that info! Yes I did the compression test at operating temperature (engine was about 190*). And I actually did cylinder #2 first. So 178 was the first number that I got. I was pretty surprised when the none of the rest of the numbers even got over 140. I will roll the engine over before I put the intake back on like you suggested and see how that cylinder looks. And I'll definitely plug that hose as you suggested. I'm headed back out to keep cleaning up all the mating surfaces while I wait on the gaskets to arrive. In the meantime...

    Questions:
    -Are you're saying that the compression in the rest of my cylinders should be expected to be so low (120-140) because of the dish pistons that are in there?
    -How much water could be bypassing my radiator through that un-needed hose? Because the car definitely has a tendency to run hot.
    -Is anyone able to verify the tightening sequence for the cylinder head?
    -Is there a tightening sequence for the intake manifold?
     
  2. 94IDI

    94IDI Jared

  3. Mike B in SC

    Mike B in SC Well-Known Member

    Now is a good time to bolt on some TA aluminum heads and an aluminum intake manifold!
     
  4. 94IDI

    94IDI Jared

    Haha. Damn Mike! You sound like my friend over here. He’s HOUNDING me about why I’m putting these old heads back on.

    the aluminum top end is coming. But I really hate to bolt it up to a block that is full of this much sludge. Really don’t want to pump 20 years of funk through a brand new top end.

    Here’s some pics of what’s in the block and heads
     
  5. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Right out of the 1967 Buick Chassis Manual,

    1967HeadTQSeq.JPG 1967IntakeManifoldTQSeq.JPG 1967TQTable.JPG
     
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  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  7. 94IDI

    94IDI Jared

    Sludge
     

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  8. 94IDI

    94IDI Jared

    Thanks Larry!!
     
  9. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Just flush the cooling system when you are done.
     
  10. 94IDI

    94IDI Jared

    Oh I have it empty right now. Which leads me to another question.

    Another chart on Teambuick.com says the cooling system capacity is 20 quarts. However when I emptied the coolant last night the radiator was full to the top and I only got about 2 gal (8 qts) from it. Now granted; the block is still full. But there surely isn’t 3 gallons of coolant in this block right?

    Sowhat gives? How many gallons will the system hold?
     
  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    System capacity is 16-17 quarts (67 Chassis manual) depending on whether you have A/C or not. That includes the heater core. There is coolant in the block that you can drain. There are block drains on either side of the block.
     
  12. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    BE CERTAIN that the block and head are not damaged in the area where the head gasket "let go".

    It would be real common for the head or block to be blowtorched by combustion gasses spewing from one cylinder to the other, melting/distorting the metal of the head/block.

    You really ought to check the head and block with a straightedge. If either or both are warped, lack of gasket crush could be the reason the gasket popped to begin with.

    I blew the head gasket on my '88 K1500 a couple years ago--between #3 and #5. Gouged the block and head; led to complete engine replacement. Bearings on #5 don't look good; with #3 firing across the gasket into #5, #5 was essentially seeing massive preignition (by ~90 degrees!) This beat the hell out of the bearings; and I don't trust the piston either.

    In your case, #4 fires 90 degrees ahead of #6, so your #6 may be as beat-up as my #5.
     
  13. 94IDI

    94IDI Jared

    Awesome Schurkey. Thanks.

    Does the picture below show such “blowtorch” effect? Thats the metal between cylinders #4 and #6 (the cylinders that had no compression) and I cannot get it to clean up or smooth out.
     

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  14. 94IDI

    94IDI Jared

    Also, I’m Having a hell of a time finding a parts store that can get the intake gaskets for me.
    From what I’m looking at on the cylinder head there are two square water passages and two round water passages on each side.

    -Do I need new and separate Gaskets for each of these?
    -Can I reuse the valley pan?

    pictured is what I just got from the part store. Do I need more than that?
     

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  15. 94IDI

    94IDI Jared

    The million dollar question: Is the valley pan the only thing used as a gasket?

    ...I don’t remember any big chunks of gasket falling out when I pulled the intake. But I did it alone and was pretty pre-occupied trying not to destroy the engine bay.
     
  16. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Yes the steel valley pan is all you need
     
  17. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    do not used the manifold gaskets,..they are pure garbage just use hi temp copper rtv
     
  18. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  19. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    yes you can reuse the valley pan gasket if it came off nicely,....i myself never do
     
  20. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    The gasket is steel with rubber front and rear rubber rail seals.
     

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