1972 GS Stage 1 convert (clone)

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when the imagination works it comes up with some great things. So they did not make it, who cares maybe they should have. All of the best cars are always build in limited quantities, does that mean us normal guys should miss out on the fun heck no. :3gears:

 

good points

maybe I should read more instead of just looking at he pictures. i am a eye candy guy I guess. I love starting posts on this board because of the great feedback you always get

 

Jim is just joking around :TU:

 

I hear ya, I was just kind of looking at the way it was listed. It is a clone from the get go, but sort of shrewdly listed I thought. I was just kind of goofing on the fonts and wording used to try to confuse and mislead the customer (IMHO) no more than that.

 

Jim, Can shed some light on the legal issues (if any here ) also :TU:

So what ya think? Is it a slick little scam (course over 25 k isn't quite "little") or is this an "honest" mistake.

I already e mailed the guy last night and got no responce.


I know if I were selling it number 1 I'd have the VIN listed so it is without a doubt something that could be researched by potential bidders.

I'd drop all that jazz about handful of GSX convertibles and you can't prove it etc

I'd say "Even though there wasn't one ever made, or even though this isn't one (in the event a few were made) I am offering this 1972 Buick Skylark convertible for sale. It has been modified to my dream car as a never produced 1972 Stage 1 GSX convertible (built to 455 specs,not Stage 1 455 specs).


Not any of this "rare options" or "GS 455 Stage 1" or "highest optioned GSX" stuff.

1972 Skylark convertible with GS and GSX parts added, converted from 350 2 bbl car to 455 big block etc etc etc.

I think it is done the other way on purpose so someone does a knee jerk reaction and buys it right away (off line or whatever).

Wonder if it will get bid up also, by same crew uzzled:

 

That happened here locally back before internet sites like this where things could be confirmed and such.

I ALWAYS got the first Car and Trader magazine when it came out below our warehouse, so one day I see this ad.

Now this was in the mid 1980's but I still recognized how rare it was.

Ad read:

1970 Buick GS 455 Stage 1 4 speed convertible, black on black on black,bucket seats,tach and guages FIRST $21,000.00

Might have been more than 21k but the rest of the ad looked like what I typed.

So I dive for a phone (paper is just being delivered that morning) but people are "already on the way up the mountain to get the car" according to the "shop helper" and his boss told him to tell anyone who called he'd be back when they got there, and they HAD to bring cash, "First come first served, and no other deals would be accepted!" "CASH ONLY"!!!!!!

So first guy there bought it (YEH! he "bought it" alright) car turned up months later at a knowledgable friends house with tape on the VIN and block, as well as cowl plate.

"Without looking at THAT info tell me if this car is correct?" was the basic question.

As you can probably already figure it WAS too good to be true and the Doctor got ripped off BIG TIME.To this day I haven't ever heard of the car again (probably still licking his wounds).

I just really hate to see this kind of crap pulled on people. I hope I am wrong about the intentions of the ad for the 1972 Buick rare,recreation,GS Stage 1,undocumented GSX convertible with non refundable $5000 wire but I'd think someone could lose AT LEAST 5k if they are not careful here.

Hope I'm wrong but I don't like to see people getting screwed :af: if I can help them avoid it no matter how much or how little money they have (it is all relative)

 

Thank you Brad :TU:
I did not want to be the only one to break that news :laugh:

:TU:

 

Break the news Mike - don't hold back.

Get the information out so people can make an informed decision :beer

:bglasses:

PS - this reminds me of the red GSX car from Alabama years ago that the 'used car dealership' swore was legit (with a Skylark VIN :error: ). It was on Ebay several times before the seller changed the wording in the ad to accurately reflect what the car was (after several emails from many of us).

 

I saw the real 1970 1 of 1 black on Black 4spd stg 1

Jim has it at Trishield, what a %^&*(*))* car it is, the car you were just talking about and it is the real thing. I am fortunate to live about 4 miles from the holy grail of Buick GS shops in Anoka.

Jim was nice enough to give me a quick tour last week, and he had some stuff there that would make you do back flips.

Anyways he was telling me about the black on black 1970 GS and it did not sink in as to the rarity of the car until he said one of one. I guess I am still kind of a rookie.

The car is almost complete, Frame off. Maybe he would post some pictures if we ask nice. I guess it is going to some museum somewhere

 

No, that's not the one I am talking about this was over 20 years ago and was a dressed up Skylark.

I am sure anything Jim has iis 100% legit :TU:

 

Yeh yeh I know

"I did not want to be the only one to break that news "

Well, so ya know, the only reason I stopped to question my long standing beliefs (NO GSX convertibles) was because he quoted a reliable source (GSX registry site).

Ever since I found that Experimental "Stage III" block that I almost blew off when the guy said "Stage III" (Yeh! right buddy there is no such thing!) yeh, even though the name Stage III was incorrect according to Dennis Manner I would have never discovered it if I didn't give the guy the benefit of the doubt and follow up.

So "only a handful were made" (convert. GSX's) quoted from the GSX registry made me pause and ask.Was even the same wording as Dennis used when he called me in the 1980's and told me what I had (even though the name was not disscussed then) he also said "You have a VERY rare piece there we only made a handful" (or few) "of them, take care of it".

I'm going to have to visit that sight and see if it even claims that about GSX converts. ou:

 

Experimental is one thing, production is another.

I just went through the "GM daily car reports" again just to verify.

1970 A9 "GSX" option = No covertibles
1971 WA5 "GSX" ornamentation = No convertibles
1972 WA5 "GSX" ornamentatiion = No convertibles

The daily car reports are a GM document and the best source of production info currently available.

Interesting though;
1971 there were 3 convertibles built in flint with a front spoiler.
1971 there were 3 convertible built in flint with a hood tach.
1972 there was 1 convertible built in flint with a hood tach.

I do have 1968-1972 GS prouction total reference guides for sale if anyone is interested :Brow: (shameless plug :laugh: )

:beer

 

Good info

That is what I thought. None the less, I still like the look of that car. I bid on it anyway since there is plenty of nice car there, did not hit the reserve, so oh well. I think I will go ahead and complete my 70 vert and customize it with GSX ornamentation, just because I like the look and have all the pieces. It is technically a custom since there is no original to clone :Smarty: And GOD DANGIT, if I was not only 2 years old in 70, and could have beat up my local dealer to send one out the door that way for me, I would have, so, as far as I am concerned, my customized 1970 GSX Convertible will do just fine for me. :TU:

Now, what to do with the paint color combo o No: The wife thinks that one is too dark. I like it. She also does not care for the Saturn Yellow, my favorite color. I had had 2 Stratomist #25, and think that is the best blue color on a car. She is wagging her finger at me claiming Silver is the color, black stipes with red pin outline. Anyone care to opine? :beer

 

Cool info Mike:TU:

Yeh, what made me hesitate totally saying there was no way, was the story I heard not long ago when I owned another GM car.It was a 69 Hurst Olds 455.

Welll, this story came up in a news letter about a guy who bought a 69 Hurst Olds clone.He knew they were never amde but it was still a cool car so he overlooked the fact it was incorrect.

I don't know the exact chain of events but when he was going to get it painted he was trying to figure out how to deal with the luggage rack holes in the decklid. Find another rack,weld them,another deck lid o No:

Turns out it was one of two specially produced for the likes of Linda Vaughn (sp) (she still has hers today).

Someone finally figured out the holes were where the platform was mounted on the decklid with the huge Hurst shifter towering off of it and the models styling beside it :eek2:

I am always concerned when someone just gives enough misleading information that could result in someone with less of a knowledge base like we have here making a VERY expensive mistake.

The guy selling that "GSX convertible, still has not responded to my email where I told him the info was not correct............and I don't think he wants to correct it.

 

Good info

That is what I thought. None the less, I still like the look of that car. I bid on it anyway since there is plenty of nice car there, did not hit the reserve, so oh well. I think I will go ahead and complete my 70 vert and customize it with GSX ornamentation, just because I like the look and have all the pieces. It is technically a custom since there is no original to clone :Smarty: And GOD DANGIT, if I was not only 2 years old in 70, and could have beat up my local dealer to send one out the door that way for me, I would have, so, as far as I am concerned, my customized 1970 GSX Convertible will do just fine for me. :TU:

Now, what to do with the paint color combo o No: The wife thinks that one is too dark, Diplomat #28, I like it on that car. She also does not care for the Saturn Yellow #"Q", my favorite color. I had had 2 Gulfstream Blue #25 cars, and think that is the best blue color on a car. She is wagging her finger at me claiming Silver, #14 is the color for mine, with black stipes and red pin outline. Anyone care to opine? :beer

 

John,

That is a cool Old's story.... I love the '69 Hurst Olds :TU:

I guess it never hurts to check into cars that "were never produced" because you never know what you may find :3gears:

 

"never hurts to check into cars that "were never produced"

Hey Mike,

Yeh, I'm always dreaming about "THAT DAY".

I guess I got one big personal dream in finding some real cool Buick parts, like the experinmental block I stumbled onto ("Even a blind squirrel, finds a nut now and then" is my response on my luck on that) Parts put away though ,.... can you even IMAGINE finding the ENTIRE, super rare,and misunderstood car? "I just thought it was custom!" :shock:

I am sure it still gives ole Brad C. a chill when he realized what he had with that 1970 Detroit Auto Show GSX :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :beer
When it REALLY sunk in! p :laugh:

MAN!!!! Gives me chills just thinking about it and I had nothing to do with it.

Yeh, I like the 69 H/O's too I finally sold my 4 bolt block (after years of stress owning it.That block "makes" lots more stress than you can ever imagine.Ask anyone who has owned it!!! :laugh: It sucks REALLY bad at times, takes a little time though :grin: ) .

That 69 H/O 455 I got was a thorn in the side too, UNTIL I sold it and made a ton O bucks on it though:Brow: :Brow: ! Didn't even drive it a whole mile while I owned it, but that ONE MILE was very intense!!! :3gears: :3gears: :laugh: :bglasses: )

Sorry to ramble on so, but I'm board to death till I go in and see if the Doctor can get me fixed me next week.

I'll shut up for a little bit (but that isn't a promise! :laugh: )