1970 GSX trivia

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by 442w30, May 25, 2020.

  1. 442w30

    442w30 Well-Known Member

    Saw a post on Instagram on the GSX. Poster incorrectly claimed the 455 had the most torque for any American car till the Viper, but what I'm curious about is the X meaning.

    The poster claimed it was "Extra," which I don't think it is at all. In fact, I think I should be groaning with that response.

    I think the X is just nonsensical, much like Plymouth's GTX or any other name with an X to it--it sounds neat. At best, it may be "Experimental" because it was initially a marketing idea that came to light as a show car.

    Can someone clue me in?
     
  2. mrolds69

    mrolds69 "The Cure"

    Look in your book, Diego. It's got to be in there somewhere.
     
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  3. Brad Conley

    Brad Conley RIP Staff Member

    Experimental.

    What american muscle car had more torque? Cadillac was not a muscle car...
     
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  4. mrolds69

    mrolds69 "The Cure"

    I knew that Brad, that's funny too, because I was going to say he should ask you because you had a bunch of them.
     
  5. 442w30

    442w30 Well-Known Member

    Thank you!

    The trivia question wasn't worded as "muscle car."

    Screenshot 2020-05-25 at 12.30.54 PM.jpg

    And I think it's worth pointing out the Cutlass SX with the 4bbl. 455 also had the same torque rating:

    http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/olds/ol70/bilder/39.jpg
     
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  6. Brad Conley

    Brad Conley RIP Staff Member

    ...and at a higher RPM. :p
     
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  7. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    There is the remaining issue of factory ratings versus actual measurements today for Buick and the other makes. I think JW has stated that no stock Buick 455 rebuild has ever made 510 foot pounds or close to it.
     
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  8. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Correct they generally come in around 440 to 460
     
  9. no1oldsfan

    no1oldsfan Well-Known Member

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  10. BrunoD

    BrunoD Looking for Fast Eddie

    My GS,the best sleeper ever.Bruno.
     
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  11. no1oldsfan

    no1oldsfan Well-Known Member

    So speaking of GSX's...
    When I was a kid there was a Stage One Saturn Yellow car that sat close to our house in Denver. We were convinced that we were going to own. So much so we had the hood tach off of it. Anybody own a Stage One GSX with Denver roots out there?...
     
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  12. gsfred

    gsfred Founders Club Member

    Got your colors mixed up. Colors were Saturn Yellow, or Apollo White. :)
     
  13. no1oldsfan

    no1oldsfan Well-Known Member

    Ok. My bad. I just know that I watched this car for years. One day it was gone.
     
  14. Eric

    Eric Founders Club Member

    If I remember correctly... I thought that the article said "American Car" not "American Muscle Car" so... if that indeed is the case then the article would still be wrong in saying that Buick had the most torque of any "American car" up until the 2003 Dodge Viper @ 525 ft.lbs. The Cadillac would be the winner for torque output for "American Cars" till the year of 2007 when the Viper produced 560 ft.lbs.
    1970 Cadillac torque 550 ft.lbs
    1970 Buick torque 510 ft.lbs
    I believe nothing was stated about any mention of Cadillac being a muscle car.
    The Buick 455 had quite a torque record to enjoy for "Musclecars" for 33 years and with two less cylinders than the V10 Viper.
    And...the torque on the 03 Viper 505 cid was 52.5 ft.lbs per cylinder X 10
    The 70 Buick 455 was 63.75 ft.lbs per cylinder X 8. So...give the Buick two more cylinders like the Viper and what would the torque rating be then for the Buick and how many more years would it hold the torque record after 2003? Huuum?
    They're just a bunch of numbers anyway portrayed by all the manufacturers to entice buyers!
     
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  15. 442w30

    442w30 Well-Known Member

    Don't forget the Buick was rated in gross hp, the Viper net.
     
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  16. MARTIN FARMER

    MARTIN FARMER Well-Known Member

    I'm confused....easily...:confused:
    Do you mean you bought the
    GSX tach or you stole the tach
    off the car?
     
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  17. no1oldsfan

    no1oldsfan Well-Known Member

    Did not end up getting the car. Did not steal the tach. Took it off to clean it up etc.
     
  18. Eric

    Eric Founders Club Member

    Talking torque here, not horsepower.
     
  19. MARTIN FARMER

    MARTIN FARMER Well-Known Member

    Too bad it got away...
    I should have given the
    guy the $1250 he wanted
    for the 70 Superbird in
    1979...:(
     
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  20. no1oldsfan

    no1oldsfan Well-Known Member

    Boy no kidding. So many stories back then. That GSX got sold for I think 750.00. We stopped by over and over. No not yet. No not yet he kept saying. Then one day it was gone.
     
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